Gerald posts and article about Archbishop Harry Flynn, of the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis sending a letter to to New Ways Ministry forbidding the celebration of the Eucharist at their symposium.
Flynn prohibited symposium participants from celebrating Holy Eucharist, saying to do so might mislead Archdiocese members into believing the speakers’ views had the church’s sanction.
"Hopefully, that will at least minimize potential confusion and scandal," Flynn’s letter concluded.
Archdiocese spokesman Dennis McGrath said the reason for prohibiting the Eucharist at the symposium was simple: "There’s certain rules of the church that are inviolate. The Eucharist is the heart of our faith. There just isn’t much elbow room there."
…Flynn’s decision "is a betrayal of the core of our Catholic faith," Bayly said. "The church should be big and wide to support diverse opinions. For God’s sake, it’s Catholic — it’s universal."
And her Catholicity means that the truth in St Paul’s is the same as the truth in Rome or anywhere else in the universe. The article goes on to talk about the symposium held in Kentucky.
There, DeBernardo said, Archbishop Thomas Kelly told New Ways Ministry that he had been told by the Vatican not to allow the Eucharist — a decision that lies with the head of the diocese under church law.
Kelly invited conference participants to instead attend Mass at his cathedral — but New Ways Ministry declined and conducted the Eucharist anyway, saying Kelly’s letter fell short of forbidding the sacrament.
"We saw it as a loophole," DeBernardo said.
|Jester Hat Tip:||Gerald Augustinus|
Now if that doesn’t display their attitude, nothing does. Their whole theology is to look for loopholes and where none exist to create one out of whole cloth, or should I say loophole cloth.
It is quite interesting, if true, that someone in the Vatican has their attention on Same Old Pagan Ways Ministry and are advising bishops on this subject. Of course the founders of this disministry were disciplined by the CDF and "permanently prohibited" from all forms of homosexual ministry.
Now if only Archbishop Flynn would do the same for the infamous St. Joan of Arc parish with there Gay, Lesbian. Bisexual, and Transgender Choir and rampant dissent which is really not much different from what is said at the symposium.
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Just as an FYI:
I live in this diocese. The “choir” you refer to has no association with St. Joan of Arc Church. They happen to send a contingent to this choir, but it doesn’t arise from anyting but secular worship of homosexual behavior.
And to be fair. The Archbishop has spoken to this parish and just because most of us aren’t privy to the conversations or directives does not mean that nothing is being done.
The fact that SJA is being disobedient is clear, but on a positive note, the pastor there has taken it upon himself, at the request of some parishioners, to reinstate Confesssion. This is HUGE! So please keep this parish in your prayers.
The “New Ways” crap in the article is not about SJA. but only has the support of the parishioners, most of them who have no idea what it means to be Catholic or to follow Christ.
This “Disministry” is not Catholic in any way; they are just another cult of self. I’m glad that Archbishop Harry Flynn spoke up and defined their non-status.
The choir does have an association since they are singing at their Gym liturgies as mentioned on their web site. Inviting them to sing at Mass is certainly and association.
I just looked at the website for that St. Joan of Arc parish…I thought it was satirical at first, especially because of the talk on “the Risk of Being Forgiven” among other things…
St. Andrew Church of Portland, Oregon, advertizes their participation in Portland’s “gay pride” events.
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How about St Monica’s in good old Santa Monica CA where they have homosexual potlucks. I actually sat behind two homosexual men holding hands kneeling together after they received the Eucharist.
Thanks, Jeff, I obviously missed that detail.
Yeah, we only WISH the SJA website was satirical.
You can’t tip a jester hat! It’s not rigid enough! 😉
I had to laugh at this description of the Saturday Mass…the only one that’s actually in the Church incidentally:
“Father George gave a short sermon followed by everyone gathering around the altar for communion. The smaller number of people made it a more intimate service, in that with a little effort and time one could eventually know everyone. Ordinarily when mass lets out in 40 minutes one sincerely means “Deo Gratias” but somehow it was more difficult to leave the comfort and new acquaintances this time.”
Gad-zooks! The bishop overseeing St. Joan’s should sell the property to a Protestant group, take the money and build a Church that looks like a Catholic Church in a faithful area, and give the priest an assignment where he won’t bother anyone.
As a FORMER member of SJA allow me to clarify: SJA has hosted events by the Twin Cities Gay Men’s Chorus (a seperate group). Not a secret, it’s right on their website. However, SJA also has their own parish choir. The parish choir wears rainbow stoles when they perform. Not all of the parish choir members are GLBT, some of them are.
St. Joan of Arc aside, I’ve got to hand it to Archbishop Flynn. We’ve had some troubles in the past in the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minnespolis, but the Archbishop has started to straighten things out. Let’s not forget that this most recent action of his is a step in the right direction.
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