In an article on yet another organist with same-sex attraction who has been let go by a Catholic church.
…In January, St. Agnes Catholic Church hierarchy summoned Nadeau into a closed-door meeting, he said. Pastor Gary Appelgate told Nadeau that to continue as music director, he needed to resign from Kansas City’s Heartland Men’s Chorus, take a vow of celibacy and acknowledge that homosexuality was a disorder, Nadeau said.
Finally on article on the subject where they at least explain that the Church sees a difference between somebody with homosexual tendencies and somebody for follows up on them.
"During the interview process, I wanted them to know what was going on with me. I told them I was the director of a gay mens’ choir," said Nadeau. "I was greeted by a Catholic Church that I thought didn’t exist: very kind, very loving, very compassionate.
I guess my definition of compassion doesn’t include encouraging or at least ignoring a fellow sinner committing objectively grave acts.
Under his direction, the music program grew to include two children’s choirs, youth and contemporary ensembles, and a Spanish-language musical liturgy. But in 2003, a group of conservative parishioners started campaigning against Nadeau, who they saw as an emissary of a movement to "legitimize homosexuality at the parish level."
Members collected signatures on petitions to the papal nuncio, while an anonymous group stapled pictures of Nadeau to ads of underwear-clad men and slipped them under churchgoers’ windshields, he said.
Later that year, former Kansas City Archbishop James Keleher told Nadeau if he kept his two jobs separate, he did not see a problem with his other position.
The leadership at the archdiocese changed last year. In January, Nadeau said Applegate informed him that his membership in a "gay-affirming" group kept him from living out church doctrine.
Like priests, parish employees need to follow religious texts because "part of holding a church position is upholding the church’s teaching," said the Rev. Thomas Tifft, rector of Saint Mary Seminary and Graduate School of Theology in Wickliffe, Ohio.
Unfortunately by the looks of it it is probably a correct description of the former archbishop’s view.
The article references another story of which is detailed here:
LAS VEGAS — As a Bishop Gorman High School teacher for six years, Jeff Crouse relished imparting knowledge to young minds.
With his doctorate in film and television studies from the University of Warwick in England, Crouse handpicked cream-of-the-crop seniors to take his college-level classes in philosophy and film studies.
He was active outside the classroom, too challenging students through a Philosophy Society Club and heading the school’s chapter of Amnesty International.
A former seminarian, Crouse, 45, said he appreciated the Catholic culture at Bishop Gorman because of the freedom it allowed him to develop his classes and to teach from a religious perspective.
But he discovered Bishop Gorman’s absolute intolerance on some matters when he promoted himself on the popular Web site MySpace.com, where he detailed his taste in music, movies and men.
It somehow came to the attention of school administrators. Within a week, he was fired.
Crouse said he was called into the principal’s office May 12 and told he was being terminated, per his contract, for "maintaining, by word or action, a position contrary to the ordinary teaching of the Catholic Church.
Prayers for these two men are in order, especially so that they may come to realize that this isn’t unjust persecution – but an act ordered towards repentance.
I can’t believe our Archbishop Emeritus Keleher would say that. Notice that it was the “accused” saying such a thing, not a statement from the archdiocese. It is good to know that Archbishop Naumann is cleaning house, though.
Why is it so difficult to see the difference in the Church’s teaching on homosexual orientation and homosexual practices? Orientations are not sinful. One can choose whether or not to commit sinful acts.
Homosexual orientations are not sinful, but we must also be careful not to celebrate them.
Of course, Jeff. I will pray for them.
So will I, Jeff.
Agreed. I love that I am a part of a Church that sees homosexual tendencies as disordered but not as excluding one from being a part of that Church. Someone challenged Barbara McQuicken on this on EWTN last week, and she explained that we are all called to repentance, and we can choose whether or not we keep committing grave acts. Fundamentalism makes a huge deal out of homosexuality, but doesn’t say much about straight sexual acts…the RCC pulls no punches with Her position that sexual acts outside the marriage bond and which are not open to children are wrong.
You said it better than I did, Chris. Thanks!
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There is a bill on the governor’s desk, SB1437,
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Unbelievable. Please speak your mind and
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Try calling at least once from every phone you
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Pray also for the bigots who put pictures of the organist on ads of underwear-clad men beneath churchgoers’ windowshields.
Pray for the people who threw out two talented, dedicated workers.
Pray for yourself and your ideology of hate and hypocrisy.