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"It is the test of a good religion whether you can joke about it." GKC

Liturgy

Facing East

by Jeffrey Miller January 13, 2008
written by Jeffrey Miller

B16 celebrating Ad Orientum on the feast of the Baptism of Christ in the Sistine chapel
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There has been a lot of buzz in St.
Blogs over the Pope celebrating
the Solemnity of the Baptism of our Lord using the Sistine Chapel’s
original altar and praying the Mass Ad Orientum.  In previous
years a wooden platform was built over the original altar with a
smaller altar placed on it.

Zadok
the Roman has found
and example of
highly ironic reporting on this.

In a departure from tradition,
Benedict did not celebrate the Mass at a small altar set up to face the
congregation. 

No doubt we are in for a rash of
stories of the Pope turning his back on the people as we got as
journalistic boilerplate in coverage of the Motu Proprio.  
Anybody who has read then-Cardinal Ratzinger’s book Spirit of the
Liturgy know precisely the Pope’s view of celebrating Mass Ad Orientum.
 Fr. Z. says “I contend that more damage was done by
turning around the orientation of Mass than perhaps any single other
change.
” and I am inclined
to agree with him. Facing the people can too easily lead to “Ad
Entertainer.”

Good coverage of this can be found at:

Teresa at Blog by the Sea.

The New Liturgical Movement
Amy Welborn

Hermeneutic of Continuity

January 13, 2008 4 comments
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Pro-life

CANON 915 MILLSTONE MEMORIAL DEDICATED

by Jeffrey Miller January 10, 2008
written by Jeffrey Miller

Millstone for Canon 915Romney, WV 8 Jan 2008)  A time
capsule was placed under a bronze medallion bearing the inscription
CANON 915, at the center of a Millstone which is part of a Memorial
to the Unborn at Our Lady of Grace Catholic Church in Romney, West
Virginia. 

The time capsule was sealed with the bronze medallion on January 7th,
2008, the Feast of Saint Raymond of Pennafort, Patron of Canon Lawyers.

The capsule contains Church Documents, the Code of Canon Law, Bishops
statements, various articles and other items connected to contemporary
news regarding Canon 915.

The marker and capsule are especially meant to bring attention to the
present scandal by which some of the faithful may be caused to falter
in their belief in the Real Presence of Jesus Christ in the Most
Blessed Sacrament of the Altar.  This stumbling block comes
at a time when surveys suggest many Catholics do not
realize:   The most August sacrament is the Most
Holy Eucharist in which Christ the Lord Himself is contained, offered,
and received and by which the Church continually lives and grows
[Can.  897]

In particular, this disbelief is reinforced and deepened when Catholic
politicians who publicly support the grave sin of abortion or
euthanasia are allowed to receive Holy Communion, despite their gross
disregard for Catholic teaching.  According to (then) Cardinal
Ratzinger, their formal cooperation becomes manifest – understood, in
the case of a Catholic politician, as his consistently campaigning and
voting for permissive abortion and euthanasia laws [Memo to U.S.
Bishops, 2004]

Some of the faithful in witnessing manifest grave sinners receiving
Holy Communion are confronted with the temptation to question; 1. the
gravity of the abomination of abortion, and 2. the Holiness and
Presence of Our Lord in the Most Blessed Sacrament of the
Altar.  They may even fall into to thinking; If these
politicians dont have to listen to Church teaching and can still
receive Holy Communion, why cant I?

…Fr. Kuchinsky noted:  It is shameful that many of those
who are entrusted with the custody of the Mystery of Faith would
permit people so obviously tied up with such a demonic project as the
systematic destruction of the unborn to approach the sanctuary to
receive the Bread of Life.  This scandalous situation is a
grievous one and greatly offensive to the faithful who have any measure
of piety for the Holy Eucharist.  Yes, we pray for the lost
souls who enable the heinous crime of abortion.  But, I also
pray that one day those who are uncomfortable enforcing Church law in
this the most important of issues will also understand the great
sorrow, scandal and confusion they have caused for so many of the
faithful by their failure to act and rally the other ministers of Holy
Communion to defend the Holy of Holies from sacrilege.

Archbishop Burke last year wrote an extensive article on  The Discipline Regarding the Denial of Holy
Communion to Those Obstinately Persevering in Manifest Grave Sin

January 10, 2008 13 comments
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Liturgy

I have a suggestion

by Jeffrey Miller January 10, 2008
written by Jeffrey Miller

I know the following story is a couple of days old, but it is quite good.

VATICAN CITY (CNS) — The reverence and awe of Catholics who truly believe they are receiving Jesus in the Eucharist should lead them to kneel and receive Communion on their tongues, said a bishop writing in the Vatican newspaper."

If some nonbeliever arrived and observed such an act of adoration perhaps he, too, would ‘fall down and worship God, declaring, God is really in your midst,’" wrote Auxiliary Bishop Athanasius Schneider of Karaganda, Kazakhstan, quoting from the First Letter to the Corinthians.

… Bishop Schneider said that just as a baby opens his mouth to receive nourishment from his mother, so should Catholics open their mouths to receive nourishment from Jesus.

"Christ truly nourishes us with his body and blood in holy Communion and, in the patristic era, it was compared to maternal breastfeeding," he said.

"The awareness of the greatness of the eucharistic mystery is demonstrated in a special way by the manner in which the body of the Lord is distributed and received," the bishop wrote.

In addition to demonstrating true adoration by kneeling, he said, receiving Communion on the tongue also avoids concerns about people receiving the body of Christ with dirty hands or of losing particles of the Eucharist, concerns that make sense if people truly believe in the sacrament.

"Wouldn’t it correspond better to the deepest reality and truth about the consecrated bread if even today the faithful would kneel on the ground to receive it, opening their mouths like the prophet receiving the word of God and allowing themselves to be nourished like a child?" Bishop Schneider asked.

What the Bishop says totally resonates with me. Especially considering last weeks feast of Saint Elizabeth Ann Seaton whose path to conversion to the Catholic Church was in part sparked by seeing how people were receiving Communion. I idea of conversions because of Communion reverence observed in the majority of parishes seems quite unlikely.

Let me make a couple of clarifications first. Since I have come into the Church I have always received on the tongue, but don’t have any problem with people receiving in their hands if done correctly. This is a valid option, though most people probably don’t realize that Communion in the hand is not the ordinary means for receiving and required an indult in the United States and other countries. Receiving on the tongue is the ordinary form for receiving Communion. Receiving Communion in the hand though obviously goes back to the first Mass and is attested to specifically by some of the early Church fathers. Saying that though I much prefer receiving on the tongue and the practice of course pretty much preventing people from taking concentrated Communion hosts away from the Church.

As for kneeling when I first came into the Church this was my practice in receiving Communion until the Bishops conference changed the GIRM though an approved adaptation.

The norm for reception of Holy Communion in the dioceses of the United States is standing. Communicants should not be denied Holy Communion because they kneel. Rather, such instances should be addressed pastorally, by providing the faithful with proper catechesis on the reasons for this norm.|

When receiving Holy Communion, the communicant bows his or her head before the sacrament as a gesture of reverence and receives the Body of the Lord from the minister. The consecrated host may be received either on the tongue or in the hand at the discretion of each communicant. When Holy Communion is received under both kinds, the sign of reverence is also made before receiving the Precious Blood.

I realize that if I wouldn’t be denied Communion if I kneeled to receive, but what good is obedience if you are only obedient on what you like. I totally disagree with the USCCB limiting reception to only the norm of standing and I hope this is changed one day to allow the Communicant to choose. They had no problem with reception via the tongue or the hands, so why limit this? But if you are going to set a bow as the norm, then why not a profound bow instead of just the nod of the head?

Ideally I have a much better solution. Let’s bring back altar rails for reception of Communion. The Communion line has become so much like an assembly line with people shuffling to receive like they were in a fast food line. The times I have received Communion at a Communion rail during the TLM have been some of my better experiences receiving Communion. I can first kneel and prepare myself better before receiving Communion and then after receiving I can spend some time in joy and adoration before immediately moving back to the pew. Sure I can partly prepare myself in a Communion line and then spend time in adoration and thanksgiving once I return to the pew, but the find it not the same as receiving at a Communion rail. Postures help us and as I have said before we need those liturgical training wheels to help us. On a practical level the Communion rail is as fast if not faster as a method to giving Communion to everybody in a short period of time.

One of the reasons that Communion rail use after Vatican II went by the wayside is the use of Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion and the distribution of the Precious Blood. Though I think the use of Intinction at the Communion rail would be a great idea. Plus you could still use EMHC’s if actually required to help with one side of the Communion rail, but of course you would only need one.

I think the use of the Communion rail really enhances reverence and would make it much more apparent to others how Catholics view the Eucharist. I doubt though that I will see a return to the altar rail outside of the TLM in my lifetime, but I can hope.

January 10, 2008 24 comments
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News

A true shepherd

by Jeffrey Miller January 10, 2008
written by Jeffrey Miller

St. Louis Catholic posts the following story.

St. Louis Catholic has learned that Sr. Louise Lears, a member of the “Pastoral Team” at St. Cronan Parish has been issued a summons and canonical admonition by His Grace, Archbishop Raymond L. Burke. Sr. Lears has been summoned to appear to answer the charges of rejection of a truth of faith under canon 750, and of causing grave scandal, thus implicating the penalties for a scandalous external violation of canon law under canon 1399.

…I am unable to ascertain the exact factual allegations underlying the charges at this time, but readers of this blog will remember that Sr. Lears was present at the Advent vespers protest outside of St. Cronan’s last month. This event occurred, and was presided over by Sr. Lears, despite the request of the Archbishop that St. Cronan’s rescind its invitation to Rabbi Susan Talve to lead this event. Rabbi Talve and her congregation hosted the infamous pretend ordination of would-be priestesses Rose Hudson and Elsie McGrath. As an aside, both Hudson and McGrath were also present at the vespers protest.

Once again Archbishop Burke acts as a true shepherd. In another Archbishop Burke story.

After consultation with St. Louis Archbishop Raymond Burke, the Aquinas Institute of Theology has canceled its annual Aquinas Lecture for 2008.

The Rev. Peter Phan, a Georgetown University professor and former president of the Theological Society of America, was scheduled to give the prestigious lecture in about three weeks.

The Rev. Peter Phan was recently criticized for his book by the USCCB doctrinal committee and is still being investigated by the CDF.

January 10, 2008 9 comments
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Politics

McCain

by Jeffrey Miller January 9, 2008
written by Jeffrey Miller

With Sen. McCain’s win in New Hampshire there have been a bunch of posts in St. Blogs about McCain’s suitability from a pro-life perspective. Christopher Blosser posting at Catholics in the Public Square blog has another one of his good round-up posts on the subject.

As many know Sen. McCain’s pro-life voting record is quite good except for the glaring example of voting for and supporting embryonic stem-cell research. Christopher posts the following from McCain’s site.

Addressing the Moral Concerns of Advanced Technology

Stem cell research offers tremendous hope for those suffering from a variety of deadly diseases – hope for both cures and life-extending treatments. However, the compassion to relieve suffering and to cure deadly disease cannot erode moral and ethical principles.

For this reason, John McCain opposes the intentional creation of human embryos for research purposes. To that end, Senator McCain voted to ban the practice of "fetal farming," making it a federal crime for researchers to use cells or fetal tissue from an embryo created for research purposes. Furthermore, he voted to ban attempts to use or obtain human cells gestated in animals. Finally, John McCain strongly opposes human cloning and voted to ban the practice, and any related experimentation, under federal law.

As president, John McCain will strongly support funding for promising research programs, including amniotic fluid and adult stem cell research and other types of scientific study that do not involve the use of human embryos.

Where federal funds are used for stem cell research, Senator McCain believes clear lines should be drawn that reflect a refusal to sacrifice moral values and ethical principles for the sake of scientific progress, and that any such research should be subject to strict federal guidelines.

Some have said with the very pro-life Sen. Brownback supporting Sen. McCain that the Senator now has a more restrictive view on ESCR than what he once held. The question is what does the above statement mean in the real world. If he is actually against human cloning and the intentional creation of human embryos than how does this effect actual research?

One of the reasons that cloning has become the grail for promoters of embryonic stem-cell research is that there are immunological issues associated with putting cells derived from one person into the body of another. These are not minor considerations and one easily solved and are the primary reason that so-called "therapeutic cloning" from the patients own tissue is the primary focus. You don’t have immunological issues if a clone is made of yourself and they kill your twin to get embryonic stem-cells. Using large scale genetic engineering to modify embryonic stem-cells from other sources is highly dubious, if possible at all, and could very well introduce genetic mutations The other possibility is as in organ transplants is finding a good match for the patient and would obviously require a large supply of embryos to make practicable.

So if the Senator is against both cloning and creation of embryos then where exactly are the embryos suppose to come from that he can approve research from? If the statement is actually represents his belief the only alternative is so-called "leftover" embryos from In Virtro Fertilization. If this is the case why doesn’t he just say so. If this is his position it would make it identical to Gov. Mitt Romney’s in that he specifically only supports ESCR with embryos from IVF.

This is a position that has been staked out by other politicians and one that I think makes not only no moral sense, but also no practical sense. Leaving aside moral concerns of using these embryos, say for example that there were sufficient human embryos that were released by the parents for use in research and that this research actually led to actual cures using embryonic stem-cells. This would then create a instant demand for human embryo’s that could not be met by the supply provided from research as a result of IVF. So by supporting use of these human embryos for research you are really automatically supporting the demand for human embryos from other sources.

As a side note it really is I think surprising how IVF seemed to fly in under the moral radar in the first place with very little outcry over it. Once again is is only the Catholic Church that is consistent and she publicly condemned the use of IVF while for the most-part Protestants have no problems with it. I think it is unfortunate the the pro-life community has hardly touched on this issue and I have never heard of demonstrations outside of clinics where IVF is done. Here we have a case where multiple embryos are created and then several embryos are implanted into the womb in the hope that one survives. When too many (by their standards) survive than "elective fetal reductions" are performed. Then of course there are also the other human beings that aren’t implanted who are placed into the "freezer." It is because of IVF that we have had part of the temptations to use these persons. The argument being that they are going to die anyway so I guess we should harvest the organs of prisoners about to be executed or experiment on people with terminal cancer since they are also all going to die anyway. Though of course all of us are going to die anyway.

As for myself I have a host of issues with Sen. McCain, though if he was the GOP nominee is would support him against the Democratic candidate who will be not pro-life at all. For the primaries though I will vote for someone much more pro-life even if they are a Don Quixote candidate.

Sen. McCain on his site also says he will protect marriage though he voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment, though he defends this as a state’s rights issue. He did support Arizona’s proposition to outlaw same-sex marriage which was narrowly defeated.

This is another issue that annoys me among some of the GOP’s nominees. For example not supporting changes in the Constitution in regards to abortion and marriage. They say these are state’s rights issues only and should be left to each individual state to decide. It seems rather dumb to me that you could get married and then go across a state lines and have a marriage not recognized. But even if you could make the case for this when it comes to abortion we need to ultimately have Federal action done to protect life. Nobody now would accept a situation where slavery was once more condoned depending on the state. This was the situation before where slavery was legal in some states and outlawed in others. As a moral issue abortion is much worse than the great evil of abortion and to say it is only a states-rights issue is quite problematic. On a prudential level I will be quite happy if Roe v. Wade is overturned and the legality abortion once again be determined by each state since it is so much easier to fight against abortion at a state level. Ultimately thought anybody against abortion should see that the protection of life needs to be done at the Federal level. We amended the Constitution to outlaw slavery and we should do the same for abortion. Murdering children is not a states rights issue.

January 9, 2008 18 comments
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Politics

Knock yourself out

by Jeffrey Miller January 9, 2008
written by Jeffrey Miller

Paul at Thoughts of a Regular Guy writes:

…My analysis is that crying didn’t get Sen. Clinton more than just a few new votes. What put Clinton over the top in New Hampshire yesterday was that she cast doubt on Sen. Obama’s pro-abortion credentials. Less than with Republicans, abortion is the still THE litmus-test issue for Democrats. They may forgive a vote for "Mr. Bush’s War", but they’ll never forgive a lapse in promoting or defending abortion.

No doubt that among so many Democrat voters that protecting abortion is such a major concern for them. I for one would like to see this as an issue between Senators Hillary and Obama in the primaries since what they say can hurt themselves in the general election. Sen. Hillary has already started making this an issue with push calls and bringing it up in her stump speeches. Though I guess a stump speeches is an ironically important place for referring to the right to dismember babies.

Over the last two years Sen. Hillary has tried to move to the middle on abortion by saying such things as "abortion in many ways represents a sad, even tragic choice to many" and holding to her husbands line about wishing for the day "when abortion is truly safe, legal, and rare." They never explain though how a "right" can be tragic and should be made rare. Though there has never been much frankness in support of abortion in the Democratic Party with much obfuscation such as "personally opposed", etc. Out of the current slate of Democratic Presidential Candidates only Bill Richardson is "personally opposed" to abortion this time. I guess it is only Catholic Democrats that have to add the "personally opposed" caveat which in itself is rather interesting that other candidates who say they are Christian feel no need to use such a modifier. This election though we have a strange switch with a Catholic who is a Democrat saying that he is personally opposed but will support abortion and a Republican who is Catholic saying he is personally for, but will vote against it.

In the general election though ardent support of abortion is an albatross so I say let the Democrats knock themselves out in portraying their loyalty to abortion in the primaries.

January 9, 2008 10 comments
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Listening always seems to be one sided

by Jeffrey Miller January 8, 2008
written by Jeffrey Miller

…First, stop thinking about God as a super-scientist or master craftsman, who designs our nervous and circulatory systems and gives us brains by which to read the stars and thus reason to His existence, but as an artist, and writer, like Shakespeare, who wants to come and live with us. Not because He’s lonely or wants to teach us something, but just because He loves us so much he wants to live our lives — and suffer our death.

Well if Shakespeare does want to come and live with me I won’t even charge him rent. Roy Schroth in a article on a new book by George Dennis O’brien says he wishes the above analogy was his own. As an analogy though it isn’t very good and you want to shout BOTH/AND at him. But I did have a pretty large guffaw at the "Not because He’s lonely" line. Does he perhaps think that God submitted a classified ad known to us as the Bible because of his loneliness? EGSE – Eternal GOd Seeking Everybody. TOP (Trinity of Person) seeking companionship.

…The American bishops, he says, have lost their public voice not merely because of the sexual abuse scandal. Even though American Mass attendance surpasses that of de-Christianized Europe, here the younger generation is falling away from Christian belief. One reason is that once the Vatican Council closed, "the spirit of dialogue evaporated." John Paul II and then Cardinal Ratzinger, head of the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, conducted a teaching papacy, not a learning papacy, as if they feared open discussion.

Yes let is have an open discussion on issues. First off let us all get together and decide if racism is really all that bad in the first place. We can get groups on both sides of the question get together and have a dialogue on racism. There hasn’t been any infallible statements made or encyclicals specifically referencing racism so it must be an open issue. So what if racism as a sin is a consistent teaching of the Church. If Ordinatio Sacerdotalis doesn’t close the door on the discussion of women’s ordination then surely there is nothing to prevent a frank open discussion in support of racism.

While we are at it how about the preferential option for the poor. Isn’t it time that we stop stigmatizing selfish people as greedy? Have we sufficiently walked in a greedy man’s patent leather shoes to understand his desire to ignore the poor. Shouldn’t greedophobia be inspected in light of modern times? Surely the Sensus Fidelium has moved from a individual preferential love of the poor to a "isn’t there a government program to take care of them?" If we have a prophetic and listening heart then no doubt we will come to realize that a individual responsibility towards our neighbors is a tradition that should now be reevaluated.

I only throw these example out since for some strange reasons progressives always want to have dialog on the same predictable subjects. If you don’t want to have a discussion on racism and greed then you are closed minded and dogmatic on these subjects.

…Thanks to modern communication techniques, the Pope has become the public "voice" of the church. The trouble with this, suggests O’Brien, is that of the many "voices" the Pope could use he has chosen those that cannot be heard effectively in the modern world. We have become accustomed to the Pope as "super-professor" or "judge." He writes long encyclicals and delivers homilies in which he tells us definitively — sometimes infallibly — what to think. At one time he said the issue of women’s ordination was settled, and not to be discussed.

But our experience of the professor and judge model is that they are not infallible. Historians, for example, admit there is much they don’t know and invite colleagues to correct them. O’Brien suggests that the Pope play the role of "patriarch," a "father" who has authority in his family based on his love for them, even though good fathers are sometimes wrong.

In our experience not only is the professor and judge model not infallible, but neither are Commonweal writers, critics of the Pope, etc. In fact I will go so far as to say that you can name any profession and say that are not infallible. But then again Vatican I did not look at scripture and Apostolic tradition and decide that professors and judges are infallible.

…O’Brien closes with the suggestion that the Pope every five years should invite the world’s leading intellectuals, including both Catholic theologians and those who opposed the church’s teachings, to a meeting in the Sistine Chapel, where, under Michelangelo’s Last Judgment, they discuss the world’s biggest problems. The Pope’s role is to sit quietly and listen. Then consider all they have said, and publish their papers with his replies.

I don’t know about you but I would pay to see a Sistine Chapel cage match on PPV between faithful and dissident theologians.

The silliness of this whole idea is that it is not the role of the Pope to keep revisiting Church teaching, but to go deeper into the deposit of faith that is the Church’s heritage. When it comes to the deposit of faith progressives keep wanting to make a withdrawal.

This article was titled Can the "Church learn to listen?" and listening was the main brunt of it. I just want to know why progressive who won’t listen to the Pope and the teaching authority of the Church and are tone deaf to the consistent teaching of the Church should be lecturing us on listening anyway?

Carl Olson has also fisked this article and surely there is enough material for multiple fiskings.

January 8, 2008 9 comments
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Politics

Change

by Jeffrey Miller January 8, 2008
written by Jeffrey Miller

Here are some quick general reflections on the presidential race.

Whenever I hear politicians talk about change I think change is what is left in my pocket from my paycheck by the time they get done.

When I hear Sen. Hillary talking about President Johnson passing the Civil Rights act I remember the final Senate vote.

The original House version:

* Democratic Party: 164-96 (64%-39%)
* Republican Party: 138-34 (80%-20%)

The Senate version:

* Democratic Party: 46-22 (68%-32%)
* Republican Party: 27-6 (82%-18%)

The Senate version, voted on by the House:

* Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%-37%)
* Republican Party: 186-35 (80%-20%)

Including in the nea for the Democrats was Al Gore’s father.

The Hillary crying incident doesn’t bother me since if she is elected President I might cry also.

I wish that a half-Black half-Spanish lesbian was elected president. We could get so many firsts out of the way so that people can get back to voting based on a candidates position vice other attributes.

January 8, 2008 8 comments
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Link

Pagan emptiness

by Jeffrey Miller January 8, 2008
written by Jeffrey Miller

Rich Leonardi posts a contrast between Rochester’s Bishop Matthew Clark crucial diocesan-wide effort and Cardinal Pell’s comments on the same subject.
I am convinced a star ship could be powered by these two men if we could harness orthodox matter and anti-orthodox matter interactions.

January 8, 2008 7 comments
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Punditry

Ephipany

by Jeffrey Miller January 7, 2008
written by Jeffrey Miller

“I am going to try to be so persuasive, so that those of you who are still wavering . . . will suddenly come to the conclusion — a light beam will shine through — will light you up — and you will experience an epiphany — ‘I have to vote for Mike Huckabee!’ “

Well actually this explicit religious appeal was made by Barack Obama. But as Deal Hudson referenced this won’t set the theocracy watch types into any kind of frenzy. Well I already had a epiphany with Barack when Gerald Augustinus aptly wrote "That he’s more pro-abortion than Planned Parenthood, …" A nice bright light beam powered by a 100 watt incandescent bulb no less shined through since that it was good true rhetoric does.

I found it rather strange with Hillary’s push calls challenging Obama’s abortion record. Let them get into a who is more pro-abortion fight. While it might help them in the primaries this type of debate would be poison in the General Election since it nulls out all of those references about wanting abortion to be rare, etc. Hillary voted in favor of the Born Alive Infants Act while Obama just voted "present" on a similar bill in the Illinois version of the act.

One thing about the abortion debate in politics today is what candidates can get away with saying. They are allowed to say things that are so incoherent that it would give debate teams strokes and yet interviewers will sit there like they just said something sane and rational.

For example I saw an interview where Obama said that abortion is a moral question, but that we should trust women to make the right decision. Why don’t we trust women when it comes to murder of their spouses or boyfriends? If something is a moral question it is objective instead of being subjective. If in fact if we can just trust women to make the right decision on a issues, then why can’t we just trust men on other issues. This logic leads in fact to the idea that we don’t really need laws in the first place since we should just trust people to do the good.

In a sane world the interviewer would have dropped his jaw in disbelief at such an answer. A rational interviewer would have followed up asking why it was a moral questions and if this moral question is seen as murder why would it be left up to an individual within a gender group to make it?

January 7, 2008 8 comments
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