In a story involving Brook Village Retirement Home in North Providence.
The complaining resident, Wanda Hughes told DePetro that she wrote a letter to the property management group because she finds the Rosary to be “an in your face ritual.” In the letter she threatens to bring the issue to the ACLU if it is not addressed.
Yeah what could be more in your face than a group of elderly people praying the Rosary in the community room.
Hughes said the community room is “suppose to be open” and the residents can pray in their rooms.
The very idea of people gathering together in a “Community Room” of all places.
This led to a ban that has since been lifted by the management.
I had this image of these elderly folks all in their own rooms on speaker phones so they could still pray the rosary in community and not bug poor Wanda in the community room – sigh!
I’m sure the founding fathers meant that we are free to exercise our religion openly and publicly exempt if it is openly public.
I should be curious if Muslims were praying in the community room if the ACLU would take up the cause.
The ACLU doesn’t take Muslim cases?
I can imagine old ladies to be yakking about Jesus coming while shaking their beads would get irritating after while.
Why do you have to do it out loud with the props, chanting and whatever? Doesn’t your god read minds? Can’t you just do it in your heads to the same effect?
@Salvage: point taken. Yet it’s also how much the followers of “our god” are willing to be made a fool of, sitting, squatting, chanting out in public like that. People have put their lives on the line for far less worthy causes. But of course you know better *sigh*.
do not underestimate the power of little old ladies, you have had a grandmother
Our brother salvage will not see the cause as worthy. Let us not forget that at this point in his journey he is impervious to reason.
If he was not, then perhaps he would have seen the irony of publicly posting his ravings on a Catholic devotional website to irritate other Catholics in order to to call those who publicly pray irritating.
But irony only works if you understand what is being said.
Our brother salvage is not their yet. He does not even understand his own thought, so he cannot know another’s.
Let us continue to lift him up in prayer. My intention this week is that some completely gratuitous happiness come upon him to enjoy this week.
CS: Wise words again. Thanks for helping us see clearly. Let’s trust the Lord and whatever plan He has in this.
BTW: is there any place in the Rosary that refers to Jesus’ coming? I pray it often (but not enough or regularly), but I do not remember any such mention. Pointers anyone?
Of course part of it is Christians often love to be victims, of course in places like American they never are but still will cry that they are being “persecuted”, makes them feel like they’re closer to Jesus or something equally silly.
The ACLU is very quick to defend people’s rights unless they are Christian. Its too bad Wanda doesn’t realize that just as they could pray in their rooms, she could just go back to her room.
Roberto: The closest I could find would be the Hail Holy Queen.
and the salutation.
Now that I think about it the Creed is sung/recited at the very beginning so…
But you are right, as a devotion it doesn’t concentrate on the return. and there has never been yakking or preaching at any public recitation of the rosary to which I have ever been.
It takes, what? 20 minutes to say the Rosary out loud.
Wanda can’t let them have the Community Room for a third of an hour? She can have it the other 71/72nds of the day.
>The ACLU is very quick to defend people’s rights unless they are Christian
ACLU Sues Roswell for Violating Christian Preachers’ Right to Free Speech
ACLU of Colorado Supports Students Wearing Christian Symbols in the Colorado Springs School District
ACLU-NJ Defends Christian Student’s Anti-Abortion Speech
ACLU of Tennessee Defends Christian Students’ Right to Preach in Public Park
ACLU of Virginia Defends Christian Students’ Right to Protest Against ACLU at Public School
ACLU Defends Christian Students Wearing Anti-Islam Shirts to Florida Public School
ACLU Fights For Christian Inmate’s Right to Preach
ACLU of Northern California Fights Law that Got Quakers Fired Over Loyalty Oath
ACLU Defends Christian Librarian Disciplined for Refusing to Promote Harry Potter
ACLU Defends Right of Individual Christian to Display Nativity Scene on Public Property
ACLU Defends Christians Protesting Gay Rights in Florida
ACLU Champions Religious Freedom Of Mormon College Student
ACLU Fights for Christian Church’s Mission to Feed the Poor
ACLU Fights for Christmas Tree
ACLU Files Suit to Protect Free Speech Rights of Christian Protesting Wal-Mart’s Policy on Gays
ACLU of Georgia and Baptist Church File Religious Discrimination Lawsuit
ACLU of Rhode Island Files Appeal on Behalf of Christian Prisoner Barred from Preaching at Religious Services
ACLU of Michigan Defends Catholic Man Coerced to Convert to Pentecostal Faith in Drug Rehab Program
ACLU of New Jersey Joins Lawsuit Supporting Second-Grader’s Right to Sing “Awesome God” at Talent Show
After ACLU Intervention on Behalf of Christian Valedictorian, Michigan High School Agrees to Stop Censoring Religious Yearbook Entries
ACLU Helps Free New Mexico Street Preacher From Prison
ACLU of WA Wins Right of Christian Minister to Preach in Spokane Plaza
ACLU Fights for Baptist Preacher in Illinois
ACLU Defends Rights of Christian Group to Make Religious Protest at Funerals
ACLU Backs Christian Abortion Protester in Ohio
ACLU of Oregon Defends Religious Liberty Of Adventist School Boys Basketball Players
ACLU Backs Missouri Nurse Penalized for Wearing Cross-Shaped Lapel Pin
ACLU Defends Christian Street Preacher in Las Vegas
ACLU Argues for Legal Recognition of Small Christian Church
ACLU of MA Defends Students Punished for Distributing Candy Canes with Religious Messages
ACLU of Nebraska Defends Church Facing Eviction by the City of Lincoln
ACLU Defends Church’s Right to Run “Anti-Santa” Ads in Boston Subways
ACLU Defends Inmate’s Access to Material from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
Following Threat of ACLU of Virginia Lawsuit, Officials to Agree Not to Ban Baptisms in Public Parks
ACLU Defends Families Fighting Removal Of Religious Symbols from Florida Cemetery
ACLU Supports Right of Iowa Students to Distribute Christian Literature at School
ACLU Argument In Support of the Display of a Christian Cross in a Public Forum
ACLU Defends Christian Worker Required to Remove Bible from Desk at Government Job
ACLU Defends Free Speech Rights of Christians And Others On Main Street Plaza
ACLU Defends Prisoner’s Rosary Beads
ACLU Defends Christian Group’s Anti-Abortion Ads On Phoenix Buses
ACLU Pledges to Back Church in a Zoning Battle
ACLU of PA Files Discrimination Lawsuit Over Denial of Zoning Permit for African American Baptist Church
ACLU Offers To Represent Private Prayer on Public Property and
ACLU Joins Falwell To Fight For Church Incorporation Rights
And that list is even more remarkable considering that Christians are a majority in America with more wealth, power and influence than any other Christian group in the world.
But like I said, Christians enjoy feeling persecuted without ever actually experiencing the real deal. Just another delusion for the pile.
(((The complaining resident, Wanda Hughes told DePetro that she wrote a letter to the property management group because she finds the Rosary to be “an in your face ritual.” In the letter she threatens to bring the issue to the ACLU if it is not
If people like Wanda Hughes want to keep Catholics in check why can’t they be more like salvage instead of complaining about these poor old ladies who really were not that loud after all. “IT” was really the T.V.
Even better they could post about these kinds of descrimination like Doctor Wesley J Smith does here http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/secondhandsmoke/2012/07/13/the-attack-of-the-raging-secularists/
so people could express their true feelings.
THAT WILL BE ENOUGH OUT OF YA sinner vic! STOP SPREADING NITRO ON THE SITUATION, CAN’T YOU SEE THAT PEOPLE CAN’T TAKE ANYMORE OF “IT”? 🙁
Sorry Victor! “I” bet “IT” is just driving you crazy is in “IT”? http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18142394&postID=153080852145334311
If only your “Jesus really did exist and cared then He could help you so called Christians in some way!
sinner vic! I know that you certainly can help U>S (usual sinners) cause you’re the problem! ARE YA NOT? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hUxECgPxyEw 🙂
NOT FUNNY ANYMORE VICTOR! Piece! 🙁
God Bless U>S all!
>It takes, what? 20 minutes to say the Rosary out loud.
Well we don’t really have both sides of the story but I suspect this is a case of the woman getting arrested for praying and everyone freaking out until they find out that she insisted on doing in the middle of the road during rush hour.
If they were praying quietly in private as your demigod Jesus told you to I doubt there would be an issue but I can imagine they made pests out of themselves eliciting the reaction
Or they could have been polite about it and the complainer just a jerk.
Whatever the case it looks like it was resolved, probably with promises on both sides, people never stop being children, even when they’re old.
(((If they were praying quietly in private as your demigod Jesus told you to I doubt there would be an issue but I can imagine they made pests out of themselves eliciting the reaction)))
Hey folks! Let’s not lose hope, things are looking UP cause salvage now thinks that “Jesus” was a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demigod
maybe the good old ladies chapelet is really helping out?
I hear ya salvage! Ha! Ha! and your god is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3PAJjXrSjY
really Victor, I saw “IT” on cloud # 9. Piece! 🙂
Be Nice sinner vic!
Salvage actually makes sense in that he (she?) points out that it helps to know the circumstances, the when and the where. Of course, outside of mega-church revivals most praying, even in public is generally not very loud.
You don’t have to be a Christian to feel persecuted.
None of the mysteries are explicit about the Second Coming. They all deal with the life of Jesus and Mary from the Annunciation to the Coronation of Mary as Queen of Heaven and Earth. But His going forth from us in the Ascension may be a time to reflect on His returning.
And I’m sure we all thank our brother salvage for copying and pasting the entire page from http://www.aclufightsforchristians.com/. I am sure we found it most edifying.
And I think that he has a good insight when he writes “people never stop being children, even when they’re old.” The only question is whether you are a childlike or childish.
Oh, and our brother salvage is also right when he says that we feel closer to Our Lord when we are persecuted. He only fails to see that we feel this way because it is true.
Gal 2:19-20 “For I have been crucified with Christ and yet I live and the life that I live now is not my own, but Christ lives in me. Inasmuch as I live in the flesh I live in the faith of the Son of God who has loved me, and given Himself up for me.”
Puff and CS: thanks for the pointers, they will help me reflect on this next time I go through them. The Rosary is indeed a treasure of topics for meditation.
You always have a good comeback to the arguments here. I’ve also read your site, it’s thoughtful.
The mystery of the Coronation of Our Lady was, in some early Rosary prayerbooks, the mystery of the Last Judgment. I’ve heard the suggestion that it was changed to the Coronation to keep things positive.
The Assumption and the Coronation are suitable mysteries through which to consider our own last end — which, who knows, might be coincident with Jesus’ return.
(Er… that is, the *final* mystery was the Last Judgment.)
Thank you for your kind words, they are much appreciated, especially about the site.