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Atheism and Joy

by Jeffrey Miller September 16, 2011
written by Jeffrey Miller

An AlterNet article by Amanda Marcotte reminds me of a question a reader asked me over at Google+.

7) Atheist lives are bleak and lack meaning. Those in the atheist activist community find this one particularly insipid, because we so often deal with people who suffered religious abuse and were only able to find peace by abandoning religion. There’s really no reason to believe that happiness and fulfillment come from a supernatural place, or else believers would have no need for fulfilling work, loving families, friends, and hobbies, since their spiritual beliefs would suffice. Most atheists actually find our lack of belief in a supernatural being makes it easier to fill our lives with meaning and joy. Since we don’t believe in an afterlife, many of us find ourselves more motivated to make the most out of the time we do have instead of looking to the next life to make us happy.

Some might remember that Amanda Marcotte was one of two bloggers fired from the John Edwards presidential campaign for some rather extreme anti-Catholic screeds. In this article she makes some valid points though her article named  “10 Myths Many Religious People Hold About Atheists” should really be named “10 Myths May Atheists Believe That Religious People Hold About Atheists” or at least that is the impression I get from her replies. She could not put the disclaimer “No straw man was hurt in the making of this post.”  This is not to say there are no myths that religious believers have concerning atheists. I would say there certainly are when it comes to discerning motivations and atheists like any group of individuals have motives that span the gamut.

The question I got asked myself concerned the question of joy and happiness when I was an atheist and the comparison to now.

Generally I have always been a happy person and as an atheist enjoyed many of the natural joys involving family, discovery of knowledge, and the effects of the natural virtues (and of course the effects of vices).   I could read an article in a science magazine and feel elation on some aspect of science and discovery and be amazed anew at our universe. Music has brought me great enjoyment.  I certainly experienced many material joys and I would have called myself a generally happy atheist.  My developed sense of wonder certainly contributed to this feeling.

I didn’t dwell on the meaning of life since there wasn’t one other than to “go along to get along” and to enjoy what I could since one day I would just stop existing.  When I thought about this “not existing” it didn’t fill me with fear since that was a natural end and there was nothing to regret once you stopped existing.  This is not to say that the idea does not cause a rebellion of self at the idea of not-existing, but it was just a fact to be faced and one to be faced not all that often.

There’s really no reason to believe that happiness and fulfillment come from a supernatural place …

I don’t anybody who believes that or makes that claim.  Atheists can very well be happy people, but can it really be said that their happiness derives from their atheism?  Is somebody who most fully lives the tenants of atheism happier?  Some of the atheist philosophers were the most miserable people I can think of Friedrich Nietzsche, Arthur Schopenhauer, Ayn Rand, Jean-Paul Sartre.  When you think of the new atheists the word joy doesn’t usually come to mind, but this is also seems to be true of some religious leaders.

What I would contend is that religious believers in general and Catholics in particular can be more filled with joy than any atheist.  Joy is the feeling aroused by the expectation or possession of some good.  There are both natural and supernatural joys depending on these goods. There are goods that atheists deny so this in itself reduces the range of possible joys. I did not give up joy when I came to faith.  All of those natural joys I was comforted by were expanded in directions I never expected.  My love of science did not end as I came to believe in God, it was extended. Somebody who took great joy in the beauty of paintings who discovered that there was also a painter could rejoice in both the painting and the painter.   Before I was limited  to just admiring the painter.  It is a much greater and deeper joy to think about both the universe and its creator. My love of science resulted in the fact that the world is intelligible.

Most atheists actually find our lack of belief in a supernatural being makes it easier to fill our lives with meaning and joy.

Of course she doesn’t mention how she knows this and if her data is other than anecdotal. Where exactly does she get this meaning she fills her life with?  In an atheistic universe meaning is only something you impose on it.  There is no intrinsic meaning other than 42.  One of the many things I found towards the end of my atheism was that I used many words and ideas in a way that I could not really defend.  The words good, meaning, rights, etc were societal conventions and societal devices that could ultimately make no claims on me other than what I decided for myself. Something is generally agreed upon might be well worth looking at, but it can make no moral demands on you if there is morality other than a subjective one.

Since we don’t believe in an afterlife, many of us find ourselves more motivated to make the most out of the time we do have instead of looking to the next life to make us happy.

Again a generality that probably can’t be supported.  Going from atheism to theism did not affect my motivation for making the most out of time.  I did not suddenly decide that I could stop making the most out of time now that I believe in an afterlife. Besides the whole phrase “making the most out of time’ is pretty subjective.  Is somebody traveling the world and constantly dong things making more out of time than a nun in a contemplative order?

Sometimes you hear of a Jewish person who converts to the Catholic faith saying that they did not leave behind their Judaism but completed it.  All of those natural joys and virtues I enjoyed as an atheist were not left behind, but completed and heaped upon.  Ironic that in her myth-debunking post that she asserts that believers just look to the next life to be happy.  This is really usually a both/and situation unless your St. Bernadette*.  When I think upon Heaven, I don’t think “well I can hardly wait for the afterlife to be happy and I will just have to need trudging along until then.” What I do know that gives me great joy is that God has made me for himself and even though my imaginative abilities to conjure the reality of Heaven are woefully lacking; I totally know that God will give me joy and happiness also in the next life.  Many atheists would call this wish fulfillment and a crutch, but that there is a reality that matches the desire in my heart is not some cosmic joke and if a crutch helps me walk straighter and to obtain that joy – all the better.

I just wish my “wish fulfillment” didn’t bring me to belief in hell and the real possibility that I could reject God.  That my “wish fulfillment” didn’t wish for a hundred or more Lents to work on my sins and to be able to grow in virtue.  Darn that “wish fulfillment” for putting a crimp in my style and keeping me from just going after individualistic pleasures. Us believers really need to work on our “wish fulfillment” since we come up with such downers like repentance and all that.  Some might critique atheism as a sort of “wish fulfillment” of there not being ultimate consequences to actions, but this would be as equally untrue to the majority as the counterclaim.

* I say this jokingly because of the famous quote from the Virgin Mary to St. Bernadette “I do not promise to make you happy in this life, but in the next.”.

September 16, 2011 4 comments
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Marian Tattoo Fail

by Jeffrey Miller September 15, 2011September 15, 2011
written by Jeffrey Miller

Southern Fried Catholicism has various photos of what I would class Marian Tattoo Fail.

This one caught my eye (and I want my eye back). Considering todays feast, I think this tattoo is one of Mary’s sorrows.

 

I am sure this comes down somehow on a really bad translation of Luke 2:35 “and a ring will pierce through your nipple also.”

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This is what happens when you don’t have a Magisterium

by Jeffrey Miller September 15, 2011
written by Jeffrey Miller

(AP) Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson told his “700 Club” viewers that divorcing a spouse with Alzheimer’s is justifiable because the disease is “a kind of death.”

During the portion of the show where the one-time Republican presidential candidate takes questions from viewers, Robertson was asked what advice a man should give to a friend who began seeing another woman after his wife started suffering from the incurable neurological disorder.

“I know it sounds cruel, but if he’s going to do something, he should divorce her and start all over again, but make sure she has custodial care and somebody looking after her,” Robertson said. [Source]

Mr. Robertson might not want to let Mrs. Robertson know you can get a divorce if your partner is brainless.

When it comes down to it though, how is Pat Robertson’s position much different from the view of divorce in Protestantism generally? Marrying after a civil divorce is pretty much totally accepted within Protestantism. If a Protestant want’s to get “remarried” there is pretty much no bar to going to any Protestant minister to perform a wedding. Their civil divorce could have been for pretty much any reason. Now of course talking about Protestantism in general means that there is bound to be one group or more that are an exception since practice is so varied.

Sure some will use scripture to defend divorce in the case of adultery, but pretty much once they had one exemption the reality is that there are no exemptions as practiced. There is no investigation into a marriage even for the supposed exemption.

One of the things that attracted me to the Catholic Church when I became a theist was the Church’s view of marriage. As an atheist I saw marriage as a “unto death” kind of thing even if I had nothing in atheist philosophy to build such and opinion on. While some might think that annulments are a form of Catholic divorce, they are founded on a valid principal even if the practice is not perfect. Only the Church treats marriage as seriously as is merited.

When you don’t have a Magisterium difficult cases are what drive the practice and the exceptions made open up endless exceptions. While we can easily see the effect in Protestantism it also applies to Orthodoxy where divorce is more and more accepted.

September 15, 2011 9 comments
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Have we put this lantern under a basket?

by Jeffrey Miller September 13, 2011
written by Jeffrey Miller

Archbishop Dolan fallows up on his markers of the faith post with some more reflection on this subject after attending World Youth Day.

…The planners of each Mass — wisely and thoughtfully, when you think about it — printed in the Mass booklet, and even announced before Mass, “Look, it’s so jammed in here, and you are all so hot and tired, why don’t you just stay seated during the Eucharistic prayer.”

Very practical . . . very wise . . . let’s make this simple and a bit more relaxed. Let’s “lighten-up.”

What happened? I’ll be darned, at all four occasions, all the hundreds, thousands of youth still knelt! They wanted to kneel in adoration! They didn’t want it simple or practical! They didn’t mind the challenge! They wanted it!

I realize it’s a trivial example, a little thing. Maybe I read too much into it. But I wonder as well if once again our people — our young people — are telling us something:

“We don’t like ‘Catholic-lite.’ Don’t pander to us! Call us to greatness! Call us to heroic virtue! Remind us that following Jesus calls for sacrifice, and that we long for ways to let ourselves, and the world, know that we are different. Don’t make things simple! Don’t cater to convenience!”

Jesus summoned us to be a “light to the world.” Nothing “lite” about that.

Have we put this lantern under a basket? Have we turned light into lite?

I would say the answer is yes. Holiness does not come lightly and minimum Catholicism results in minimum holiness.

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Yikes!

by Jeffrey Miller September 13, 2011September 13, 2011
written by Jeffrey Miller

Father Frank Pavone, one of the country’s most visible and vocal opponents of abortion, has been suspended from active ministry outside the Diocese of Amarillo, Texas, over financial questions about the priest’s operation of Priests for Life.

The suspension was made public in a Sept. 13 letter from Amarillo Bishop Patrick J. Zurek to his fellow bishops across the country, but Father Pavone told Catholic News Service that he was returning to Amarillo and planned to continue functioning as a priest there.

“My decision is the result of deep concerns regarding his stewardship of the finances of the Priests for Life (PFL) organization,” Bishop Zurek wrote. “The PFL has become a business that is quite lucrative which provides Father Pavone with financial independence from all legitimate ecclesiastical oversight.”

Bishop Zurek said “persistent questions and concerns” from clergy and laity about how the millions of dollars in donations the organization has received are being spent led to the action. [Source]

Wow its been a tough years for “celebrity priests”. Fr. Euteneuer, Fr. Corapi, and now apparently Fr. Pavone. Though it is almost a relief to see that it was financial irregularity and not something else. Especially considering that two priests that were most involved and visible in the pro-life cause have run into problems. Satan would like to sift all of us like wheat, though I am not surprised if he had concentrated he efforts in the pro-life cause. I say this not to invoke the Church ladies “Satan” as blame considering our free will.

Again a further reminder to pray for our priests.

Update: Fr. Pavone has released a statement in response to his bishop’s order.

As usual time will tell what is going on, but the financial situation is not the loose canon that was Fr. Corapi financial arrangements.

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Single-sex dormitories and discrimination

by Jeffrey Miller September 12, 2011
written by Jeffrey Miller

The same attorney who has won public notice for trying to sue McDonald’s on the grounds that the institution is responsible for America’s obesity is now behind the now well-known sex-discrimination lawsuit against Catholic University’s decision to reintroduce single-sex dormitories. Citing District of Columbia’s Human Rights Act, Professor Banzhaf believes CUA’s decision does not qualify for the Act’s exemption of discrimination of any kind outside of “business necessity”: “without such exception [discrimination on the basis of sex], such business cannot be conducted. [Source]”

I don’t know anything about Professor Banzhaf private life, but I think I will sue him anyway.  In fact I am considering a class action lawsuit against him.  For example if he is heterosexual than that means he discriminated against  men in his selection of a possible mate.  This is totally outrageous that he would make any such decision based on sex alone.  If he has same-sex attraction the same goes for his discrimination against women as a suitable partner. Either way he has discriminated against a whole group of persons based on sex alone and this outrageous behavior  certainly deserves that a class action lawsuit should be brought against him.

September 12, 2011 7 comments
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Tracking forgiveness

by Jeffrey Miller September 11, 2011September 11, 2011
written by Jeffrey Miller

Related to today’s Gospel, here is one of my previous parodies from six years ago.

You are a committed Christian and you really want to do what Jesus tells you to do, but sometimes scriptural passages are difficult to interpret.

For example Matthew 18:21-22 says:

“Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? As many as seven times?” Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you seven times, but seventy times seven. ”

Peter’s measure definitely seems off and if you take the Bible literally it is pretty difficult to determine when you reach the limit of 70×7 (490). Just how do you know if you have accidentally forgiven somebody 491 times or more? This can be embarrassing in difficult relationship and what if you mistakenly undercount and stop offering forgiveness at a number below 490?

That was a messy and difficult problem. That was until we at Roncoe products made the 4GiveCount counter available at your local Christian bookstore.

With the 4GiveCount counter you will always know where you are at when it comes to forgiveness. No more messy mistakes and uncertainty when it comes to mercy.

Simply enter the names of those people you come into contact with into your computer or PDA’s address book and download it via a USB cable into the 4GiveCount counter and your ready to start. Every time somebody does something and you forgive them all you have to do is select their name in the Forgive Person display and then click the forgiveness button located on the upper left side of our special counter. This will increment the forgiveness counter by one for the currently selected person.

Our counter can be set to one of three forgiveness modes.

* Peter – If you are like St. Peter and believe that seven is a generous limit for forgiveness then select the Peter mode.

* Literal – To follow just what Jesus said in the Bible select the literal 70×7 mode.

* Jesus – Some biblical interpreters hold that Jesus’ statement was meant to be symbolic by giving us a relatively high number. If you follow this interrelation select the Jesus Infinity mode. *

When you increment the forgiveness counter and it detects that you have forgiven them past the upper limit as determined by the selected forgiveness mode- the Mercy Overload lamp will start to flash to warn you that you need not offer forgiveness. That’s all there is to it and you will always be sure you have done your part.

But wait there is more!!! If you order your own 4GiveCount counter by midnight tonight we will throw in a blessing counter. You are always being told to count your blessings and it is just so easy in the rush of everyday life to loose track. With our reliable and durable blessing counter you will always know just how blessed you are!

* If you select the Jesus Infinity mode and you notice that no matter how many times you increment a persons forgiveness index that the Mercy Overload lamp never comes on – don’t worry this is normal operation. This accurately simulates Jesus in that no matter how high your current forgiveness index is, his Mercy Overload lamp also never lights.

4Give Counter

* The graphic was done by Brad Sutton, a Point Church Pastor, who  saw this parody over at SperoNews and referred to in in a sermon and even created a new graphic for it that was much better than my original graphic.

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Breaking statues for Christ

by Jeffrey Miller September 10, 2011September 10, 2011
written by Jeffrey Miller

On Wednesday, Curtis Condell, 41, of Magnolia, was arrested during a meeting with authorities, Evesham Township Police Lt. Walt Miller said.

Condell, a drywall worker, has been charged with nine counts of criminal mischief and nine counts of bias intimidation, police said.

He was held on at least $100,000 bail at the Burlington County Jail. That may be increased with the addition of Cherry Hill’s charges, police officials said.

On his Facebook page, Condell described himself as “a born-again believer in the Lord Jesus Christ since my childhood (thank you Dad and Mom!)” and said he was “now working my way toward serving Christ as an evangelist.” [Source]

If the charges are true shouldn’t that be evandalist?

Though Protestant iconoclasts are nothing new, but I bet they would really like this newly remodeled Seminary Chapel of the Diocese of Hildesheim, Germany [Source][Via the Pertinacious Papist]:

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Soon to be Bishop Dowd

by Jeffrey Miller September 10, 2011
written by Jeffrey Miller

I’ve posted before about long time blogger Father Dowd and of course today he will be ordained a bishop.

So my prayers are with him today as I sit from afar as he blogs and tweets about preparation and ordination to the episcopate.

It is rather cool in this new media age to follow something like this and to see one of my occasionally blog commenters ordained a bishop.

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Beware of Greeks bearing armies

by Jeffrey Miller September 9, 2011
written by Jeffrey Miller

In some interesting news the movie on the story of Judah Maccabee looks like it will actually happen.  I remember when this movie was rumored to happen not long after Mel Gibson directed The Passion of the Christ.  Mel Gibson along with Catholic convert and screen writer Joe Eszterhas are behind the project with Mel Gibson possibly directing.  Considering Gibson’s drunken anti-Semitic rant and subsequent bizarre behavior you can imagine their will be some opposition to the idea of him doing a movie on a very interesting and less known piece of Jewish history.

So instead of hammering the Jews, Mel Gibson will make a movie on Judah the Hammer.

On an apologetics note it would be quite interesting to have a movie based on the books of Maccabee and really there is great material in them for a movie.  I always found profoundly moving the story of the mother and her children who were martyred rather than to give in to the Greek culture.  We have a equally if not more  pernicious culture today that would force itself on us. Of course discussions/flame wars would erupt about the canon of scripture since Protestants removed these books after the King James was first published and that only some Jewish groups have these books in their cannon.  I say deuterocanonical you say apocryphal.

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