{"id":2942,"date":"2008-07-08T09:33:15","date_gmt":"2008-07-08T14:33:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost:8888\/2008\/07\/08\/wake-up-and-smell-the-schism\/"},"modified":"2008-07-08T09:33:15","modified_gmt":"2008-07-08T14:33:15","slug":"wake-up-and-smell-the-schism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.splendoroftruth.com\/curtjester\/2008\/07\/wake-up-and-smell-the-schism\/","title":{"rendered":"Wake up and smell the schism"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"article\">\nThe Church of England&#8217;s ruling body has voted its support for women to<br \/>\nbecome bishops without giving traditionalist supporters of male-only<br \/>\npriesthood the concessions they had sought.<\/p>\n<p>One bishop broke down in tears at the meeting of senior British church<br \/>\nleaders Monday in York, northern England, as he described his distress<br \/>\nat the church&#8217;s lack of willingness to accommodate traditionalists who<br \/>\nhave threatened to leave if they felt they were not adequately<br \/>\nprotected.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I feel ashamed,&#8221; said the Right Rev. Stephen Venner, Bishop of Dover,<br \/>\nwho is in favor of women bishops. &#8220;We have talked for hours about<br \/>\nwanting to give an honorable place to those who disagree. We have been<br \/>\ngiven opportunities for both views to flourish. We have turned down<br \/>\nevery, almost realistic opportunity for those who are opposed, to<br \/>\nflourish.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Both sides conceded that tradition of male-only bishops would be<br \/>\nchanged, and the lengthy debate centered on what accommodation would be<br \/>\ngiven to dissenters. This was not billed as a final decision; church<br \/>\nlegislation to implement the change is to be debated next year.<\/p>\n<p class=\"blog\"><a\nhref=\"http:\/\/www.the-dispatch.com\/article\/20080708\/API\/807080709&amp;cachetime=5\"\ntarget=\"_blank\"><img\nstyle=\"border: 0px solid ; width: 76px; height: 26px;\"\nalt=\"Article\"\nsrc=\"http:\/\/www.splendoroftruth.com\/curtjester\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/02\/article.png\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"blog\">I must be dense, but I never understood<br \/>\nhow this was not anything but inevitable. &nbsp;After you swallow<br \/>\nwomen priests and dump scripture, theology, sacred traditions, and the<br \/>\nChurch Fathers regarding this then what in the world would not allow<br \/>\nwomen priests to become bishops. &nbsp;It seems to me that the only<br \/>\nreal reason at the time that they did not allow women bishops was<br \/>\npolitical and just and effort to not bleed off even more members as a<br \/>\nresult. &nbsp;I mean what theology or tradition could separate<br \/>\npriests from becoming bishops if gender was not part of the equation?<br \/>\n&nbsp;I wonder if Anglicans who at that time were against women<br \/>\nbishops if they really did not see the day when they would be approved?<br \/>\n&nbsp;Though I guess all of us have ways to fool ourselves from<br \/>\nseeing something. &nbsp;For &nbsp;Anglicans and really most<br \/>\nProtestants what is controversial today will be approved and will<br \/>\nbecome the norm tomorrow. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Church of England&#8217;s ruling body has voted its support for women to become bishops without giving traditionalist supporters of male-only priesthood the concessions they had sought. One bishop broke&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[16],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2942","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.splendoroftruth.com\/curtjester\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2942","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.splendoroftruth.com\/curtjester\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.splendoroftruth.com\/curtjester\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.splendoroftruth.com\/curtjester\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.splendoroftruth.com\/curtjester\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2942"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.splendoroftruth.com\/curtjester\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2942\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.splendoroftruth.com\/curtjester\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2942"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.splendoroftruth.com\/curtjester\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2942"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.splendoroftruth.com\/curtjester\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2942"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}