{"id":2506,"date":"2008-08-10T13:23:01","date_gmt":"2008-08-10T18:23:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost:8888\/2008\/08\/10\/i-guess-automatic-excommunication-is-getting-quite-popular\/"},"modified":"2008-08-10T13:23:01","modified_gmt":"2008-08-10T18:23:01","slug":"i-guess-automatic-excommunication-is-getting-quite-popular","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.splendoroftruth.com\/curtjester\/2008\/08\/i-guess-automatic-excommunication-is-getting-quite-popular\/","title":{"rendered":"I guess automatic excommunication is getting quite popular"},"content":{"rendered":"

The National Catholic Reporter reporting<\/a>
\non the latest priestette “ordination” this time in a Universalist
\nchurch in Lexington, Ky. <\/p>\n

… She said that at the end of the
\nceremony,
\nSevre-Duszynska told the congregation that she often thinks of
\nsomething Dominican Sr. Marge Tuite told her many years ago: “Never
\nstop making the connections between sexism, racism, militarism,
\nnationalism and all forms of violence.”<\/p>\n

Making those connections, Maguire said, was really the theme of the
\nday’s ordination. “Roy and Janice represent the merging of these
\n(struggles of justice), of making these connections,” Maguire
\nsaid. <\/p>\n

Yeah what is with that sexist Jesus guy?
\n Surely he knew the
\n“prophetic voice” that would arise 2000 years after he was crucified
\nand died for our sins.  Didn’t he know that these women would
\ncome along and interpret his will correctly for him?<\/p>\n

The Roman Catholic Diocese of Lexington
\ncondemned the Roman Catholic Womenpriests movement as “in opposition to
\nthe church’s authentic teaching” and warned that “members of the
\nCatholic faithful should not support or participate in Saturday’s
\nevent.” Participation in the event, “carries with it very serious penal
\nsanctions in Church Law,” a statement on the diocese’s Web site warned.<\/p>\n

I read that paragraph and thought that
\nwhat the diocese was saying was not quite right since
\nthe excommunicaton
\napplies to “he who shall have attempted to confer holy orders on a
\nwoman, as well as the woman who may have attempted to receive Holy
\nOrders, incurs in a latae sententiae excommunication, reserved to the
\nApostolic See.”  Not to everybody that participates in the
\nevent.  In this case we just have a really badly constructed
\nparagraph that does not accurately reflect what
\nthe Archbishop wrote<\/a>.<\/p>\n

In the Roman Catholic Church, only a
\nbaptized male is capable of receiving the Sacrament of Holy Orders
\nvalidly. What will take place on Saturday, August 9, 2008, has no
\nconnection to Roman Catholic Liturgy or Sacraments and cannot in any
\nway be recognized as a valid reception of Sacred Orders. Simulation of
\na sacrament carries with it very serious penal sanctions in Church Law.
\nMembers of the Catholic Faithful should not support or participate in
\nSaturday’s event.<\/p>\n

He certainly did not imply that imply that
\nall people who attended the event came under penal sanctions of Church
\nlaw.  Though certainly their support of this is quite sinful.<\/p>\n

In a previous article NCR interviewed
\nMaryknoll Fr. Roy Bourgeois.<\/p>\n

In an interview Aug. 7, two days before
\nthe ordination, Bourgeois told NCR that he had thought long and hard
\nabout participating after receiving an invitation to the ceremony. “I
\nconsulted a lot of friends, I’ve done a lot of discernment, spoken with
\na lot of women friends. I felt in conscience — this matter of
\nconscience keeps coming up and I don’t know what other word to use —
\nif I didn’t attend her ordination, I would have to stop addressing this
\nissue as I do” in speaking engagements at parishes and other Catholic
\nvenues around the country.<\/p>\n

Oh great he has been going around the
\ncountry supporting this falsehood.  My conscience tells me if
\nI ever run across this guy to give him a swift kick in the butt. Surely
\nhe will support my conscience in this action even if it is an
\nimpropertly formed conscience.  <\/p>\n

“Over the years and listening to women
\nfriends – if one listens, just shuts up and listens to their stories,
\ntheir faith journey and, in some cases, their call by God to ordination
\nto the priesthood in the Catholic church – there is a problem for us
\nguys in the church. What are we saying? God is calling us but not you?
\nThis is heresy. We’re tampering with the sacred here.”<\/p>\n

Hey and what about all those guys like me
\nwho don’t have a calling to the priesthood.  God is calling
\nother, but not me.  This is heresy and tampering with the
\nsacred if every person in the world is not called to the ordained
\npriesthood.  I better get to the seminary fast before it fills
\nup with 5 billion plus people.<\/p>\n

The hierarchy will say, “It is the
\ntradition of the church not to ordain women.” I grew up in a small town
\nin Louisiana and often heard, “It is the tradition of the South to have
\nsegregated schools.” It was also “the tradition” in our Catholic church
\nto have the Black members seated in the last five pews of the church.<\/p>\n

What a poorly catechized priest who can’t
\ntell the difference between so-called big-T traditions and small-T
\ntradition.  Or if he does it is even worse to use such an
\nargument to equate Apostolic Tradition with “tradition of men.”<\/p>\n

But all this talk of equality does makes me realize something.
\n Women have something I will never have (besides certain body
\nparts) – being called a Mother. And I am not talking about being called
\na Mother with a certain expletive following it.  I am
\nrestricted to being called a Father.  Everybody knows Fathers
\nDay is a second rate holiday compared to Mothers Day.  You can
\nimagine my hurt over the years when my children were in school and they
\nwould have them make Mothers Day cards to take home.  Fathers
\nDay was deliberately put in June when school was out so that they would
\nnever have to do this for their fathers.  What an unfair act
\nof discrimination!  Now I understand the role of mother is
\ntied with them actually giving birth to a child and so I find yet
\nanother unfair act of discrimination  in that I can’t get
\npregnant.  So I am starting the “Mens Pregnancy Conference”
\nand the organization “Roman Catholic Pregnant-men.”  We will
\nhave ceremonies naming us capable of bearing children where three
\nmidwives will place hands on our tummies and confer pregnancy on us.
\n What you think this is silly?  I assure you
\nontologically I can become  pregnant to the same level that
\nwomen can be ordained priests.  Oh wait.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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