{"id":3460,"date":"2007-11-20T13:53:36","date_gmt":"2007-11-20T18:53:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost:8888\/2007\/11\/20\/look-ma-no-embryos\/"},"modified":"2007-11-20T13:53:36","modified_gmt":"2007-11-20T18:53:36","slug":"look-ma-no-embryos","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.splendoroftruth.com\/curtjester\/2007\/11\/look-ma-no-embryos\/","title":{"rendered":"Look Ma, no embryos"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"blog\">Yesterday Wesley J. Smith announced<br \/>\nthat their would be big stem-cell<br \/>\nnews tomorrow<a\nhref=\"http:\/\/www.wesleyjsmith.com\/blog\/2007\/11\/ethical-stem-cell-breakthrough-like.html\"\ntarget=\"_blank\"> and boy was he right<\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"article\">Two different scientific teams have<br \/>\n&#8220;reprogrammed&#8221; skin and other adult<br \/>\ncells and reverted them back to a pluripotent stem cell state. (The<br \/>\naltered cells are being called &#8220;Induced Pluripotent Stem Cells&#8221; or<br \/>\niPS.) One of the researchers was James Thomson&#8211;the Wisconsin scientist<br \/>\nwho first derived human stem cell lines. As he wrote in SCIENCE (no<br \/>\nlink available):<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<span style=\"font-style: italic;\"><br \/>\nThe human iPS cells described here meet<br \/>\nthe defining criteria we originally proposed for human ES cells, with<br \/>\nthe significant exception that the iPS cells are not derived from<br \/>\nembryos.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><br class=\"blog\"><br \/>\n<span class=\"blog\">You would hope that if this truly bears<br \/>\nout that it will finally put the ethical problems of using embryonic<br \/>\nstem-cells behind us. &nbsp;But then again the whole debate was<br \/>\nalways more about ethics than it was about science in the first place.<br \/>\n&nbsp;Culture of death advocates were more thrilled at the idea<br \/>\ntrying to define human life down then they were about cures in the<br \/>\nfirst place. &nbsp;During the debate they managed to move the goal<br \/>\nline of pregnancy from conception to implantation for their purposes.<br \/>\n&nbsp;This was quite hypocritical considering that they really<br \/>\nthink that human life begins at birth. &nbsp;You get the feeling<br \/>\nESCR advocates might feel about this story the way many Democrats do to<br \/>\ngood news in Iraq.<\/span><br class=\"blog\"><br \/>\n<br class=\"blog\"><br \/>\n<span class=\"blog\">Though this will turn the debate on<br \/>\nit&#8217;s head in the first place. &nbsp;Previously most pro-lifers<br \/>\nwould use the fact that &nbsp;ESCR has resulted in zero cures while<br \/>\nadult stem-cells are being used in multiple treatments. &nbsp;I<br \/>\nalways wished that it had been the immorality of using human life for<br \/>\nexperimentation that should have been the primary and foremost<br \/>\nargument. &nbsp;The other argument is quite secondary and not<br \/>\nreally focused on the real problem. &nbsp;Though it could be a<br \/>\nuseful argument for those who don&#8217;t clearly see the beginning of human<br \/>\nlife. &nbsp;Now with the development of having pluripotent<br \/>\nstem-cells from an ethical source this argument will certainly fall out<br \/>\nof disuse. &nbsp;Though of course we still have no real idea of<br \/>\nwhen if ever these cells will be of practical use. Just how many states<br \/>\nwill now rush to fund this new type of research? &nbsp;Will<br \/>\ngovernment leaders now be telling their citizens that they must fund<br \/>\nthis or else they we will fall into scientific backwaters as they did<br \/>\npreviously?<\/span><br class=\"blog\"><br \/>\n<br class=\"blog\"><br \/>\n<span class=\"blog\">It was good to see the inventor of<br \/>\ncloning give up and turn to more promising methods.<br \/>\n&nbsp;Previously the research was focused into two area.<br \/>\n&nbsp;Human cloning to develop the embryonic cells that would match<br \/>\nthe person to be cured and then going on to use these cells to develop<br \/>\ncures. &nbsp;What has just happened is that one area was eliminated<br \/>\nwhere now more&nbsp; time, and energy could be devoted to the other<br \/>\nproblem. &nbsp;So many lies were told by so many to develop<br \/>\nso-called reproductive human cloning and again they turned mainly<br \/>\ntowards rhetoric and not science to make their case. &nbsp;They<br \/>\nnever wanted to mention that without human cloning ESCR up to that<br \/>\npoint had been a dead end that was more likely to result in tumors than<br \/>\ncures. &nbsp;That these cures required human cannibalism of our own<br \/>\nclones to be effective.<\/span><br class=\"blog\"><br \/>\n<br class=\"blog\"><br \/>\n<span class=\"blog\">The reality is of course that ESCR<br \/>\npromoters will continue to promote it and say that we must continue<br \/>\nthis research. &nbsp;Even if more evidence shows that the new<br \/>\ntechnique is equal to stem-cells acquired by human embryo&#8217;s I doubt if<br \/>\nit will curtail their advocacy. &nbsp;Once again it will be back to<br \/>\nfighting within the public sphere as to whether we &nbsp;can<br \/>\nfinally shut down this human sacrifice on the altars of science.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday Wesley J. Smith announced that their would be big stem-cell news tomorrow and boy was he right. Two different scientific teams have &#8220;reprogrammed&#8221; skin and other adult cells and&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[23],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3460","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-pro-life"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.splendoroftruth.com\/curtjester\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3460","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.splendoroftruth.com\/curtjester\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.splendoroftruth.com\/curtjester\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.splendoroftruth.com\/curtjester\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.splendoroftruth.com\/curtjester\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3460"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.splendoroftruth.com\/curtjester\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3460\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.splendoroftruth.com\/curtjester\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3460"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.splendoroftruth.com\/curtjester\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3460"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.splendoroftruth.com\/curtjester\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3460"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}