{"id":14378,"date":"2013-08-21T19:11:20","date_gmt":"2013-08-21T23:11:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.splendoroftruth.com\/curtjester\/?p=14378"},"modified":"2013-08-21T19:11:42","modified_gmt":"2013-08-21T23:11:42","slug":"dialogue-means-never-having-to-say-youre-sorry","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.splendoroftruth.com\/curtjester\/2013\/08\/dialogue-means-never-having-to-say-youre-sorry\/","title":{"rendered":"Dialogue means never having to say you&#8217;re sorry"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>More and more it seems to me that dialogue means never having to say you&#8217;re sorry. That dialogue becomes just another delaying tactic for revisionists.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>When the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR) met in its annual assembly Aug. 13\u201316 in Orlando, Fla., the main topic of business was how the sisters would respond to a 2012 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/loader.cfm?csModule=security\/getfile&amp;amp;pageid=55544\">mandate of reform<\/a> from the Vatican Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF). The LCWR is a canonically erected superiors\u2019 organization of nearly 1,400 sisters who are leaders of about 80% of the women religious in this country.<\/p>\n<p>Interest in their 2013 assembly was heightened by the presence of the Vatican\u2019s apostolic delegate charged with conducting the reform, Archbishop J. Peter Sartain of Seattle. He had offered to attend the LCWR 2012 assembly to discuss the mandate that had come out April 18 of that year, but had been told then by LCWR leaders that his presence \u201cwould not be helpful.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>This year, Archbishop Sartain addressed the entire membership &#8216;n a closed session and fielded questions about the mandate from LCWR members. He also met with the LCWR\u2019s 21-member national board during the first of three days of board meetings after the assembly closed.<\/p>\n<p>However, the only decision announced by LCWR in an <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lcwr.org\/media\/2013-lcwr-assembly-and-board-meeting\">Aug. 19 press release<\/a> was simply to continue talking with Archbishop Sartain and Bishops Thomas Paprocki of Springfield, Ill., and Leonard Blair of Toledo, Ohio, who the Vatican appointed to assist him.<\/p>\n<p>Now the question is: How long is the CDF willing to have the apostolic delegates continue those conversations when the LCWR has not yet agreed to any of the reforms mandated in the doctrinal assessment?<\/p>\n<p>That eight-page mandate is very explicit and readily available on the Internet, even though some LCWR members have claimed that they don\u2019t know the details of the document. Among issues identified in the mandate are areas of \u201ccorporate dissent,\u201d \u201cserious theological, even doctrinal errors,\u201d various \u201ctheological interpretations that risk distorting faith in Jesus and his loving Father\u201d and commentaries that \u201cundermine the revealed doctrines of the Holy Trinity, the divinity of Christ and the inspiration of sacred Scripture.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The mandate directs the bishop delegates to take no more than five years to direct a revision of the LCWR\u2019s statutes; review and reform LCWR plans and programs; create LCWR programs to help member congregations receive deeper formation in Church doctrine; review and guide application of liturgical norms and texts; and review LCWR links with the affiliated organizations <a href=\"http:\/\/www.networklobby.org\/\">NETWORK<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.ca\/url?sa=t&amp;amp;rct=j&amp;amp;q=&amp;amp;esrc=s&amp;amp;source=web&amp;amp;cd=1&amp;amp;cad=rja&amp;amp;ved=0CC0QFjAA&amp;amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trcri.org%2F&amp;amp;ei=YcgSUsfEMaOUiQLM7oDYDg&amp;amp;usg=AFQjCNH-DdxGk4EaMZLgweAaLB28IPOlDA&amp;amp;sig2=5IjJVG5tUiEgBpxXQz4hCg&amp;amp;bvm=bv.50952593,d.cGE\">Resource Center for Religious Institutes<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Reportedly, several meetings and\/or teleconferences between the bishop delegates and LCWR leaders took place over the past year, but no information has leaked out. From all indications, none of the mandated reforms have yet begun, even something as simple as taking the LCWR \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/www.lcwr.org\/resources\/systems-thinking-handbook\">Systems Thinking Handbook <\/a>\u201d\u00a0off the LCWR website. The CDF mandate had directed that publication to be \u201cwithdrawn from circulation, pending revision.\u201d <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncregister.com\/daily-news\/lcwr-2013-assembly-little-evidence-yet-of-any-reforms\">(source)<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Right now I am reading <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1586177893\/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1586177893&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=thecurjes-20\">Sisters in Crisis Revisited: From Unraveling to Reform and Renewal<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" alt=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=thecurjes-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1586177893\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> by Ann Carey (who also wrote this article here). This book revisits and updates her previous book on the subject and is both an informative and sad read concerning some of this history. Dialogue as a delaying tactic is clearly a method used by the LCWR and its previous incarnation from the Sixties onward. Enter into dialogue and just keep doing what you have been doing. A waiting game where you hope the other side blinks and then you just keep truckin\u2019 on as if nothing had happened. When dealing with dissent the Vatican plays the long game (often necessarily), but in the meantime the damage continues.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u2026 The press release for the 2013 assembly included an excerpt from her presidential address in which she said that, relative to the doctrinal assessment, the LCWR\u2019s \u201csituation reflects larger questions and concerns,\u201d including \u201cunderstandings of authority, faithful dissent and obedience and the need for spaces where honest, probing questions about faith and belief can be raised and discussed.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>It would seem that dialogue about doctrinal matters with the Vatican delegates will be very challenging when the sisters claim the right to \u201cfaithful dissent\u201d and their own understandings of faith, ecclesial authority and religious obedience.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Call me very pessimistic about a true reform of the LCWR. This pessimism is towards the \u201cleadership\u201d of the LCWR and not necessarily towards the member organizations. Many women in religious life have their belief\u2019s represented by the LCWR just as much as President Obama\u2019s beliefs represent my own.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>More and more it seems to me that dialogue means never having to say you&#8217;re sorry. That dialogue becomes just another delaying tactic for revisionists. 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