Right to kill
From a column in the NY Sun
The Spitzer bill S.5829 is
euphemistically
called the Reproductive Health and Privacy Protection Act. It would
raise abortion to the level of a fundamental right, like the freedom of
speech, and would therefore prohibit virtually any restrictions at all.
According to an urgent "news & action update" released by the
New York State Catholic Conference and distributed at all masses last
week, the act would force doctors to perform abortions; force Catholic
hospitals to perform abortions; force health care insurance plans to
cover them; force employers to purchase abortion coverage; authorize
non physicians to perform abortions, and undermine parental involvement
in the life decisions of their children.
In addition, the Conference warns that the state's civil rights laws
protecting doctors and nurses who do not wish to be involved in
abortions would be in serious jeopardy. The state's funding to abortion
alternative programs and agencies would be required to cover abortions.
Many regard this proposed law as ultra radical and beyond the pale, but
when it comes to abortion, Mr. Spitzer has consistently been loyal to
the abortion advocates who've helped fund his political career.
One of the first actions Mr. Spitzer took after narrowly winning the
attorney general race against Dennis Vacco in 1998 was to target the
crisis pregnancy clinics that rival abortion providers like Planned
Parenthood. In a speech at a NARAL luncheon in January 1999, he
announced that he would be establishing a reproductive rights unit
within the Bureau of Civil Rights. Ostensibly, the unit was to prevent
acts of violence and, Spitzer said, "the murder of doctors who simply
seek to fulfill their professional oath." Now I wonder what oath he was
talking about, because the classical Hippocratic oath included a
commitment not to cause abortions. That oath, of course, has been
modified to meet the declining relevance of morality in the practice of
modern medicine involving reproductive rights.
Known as 
Evil at work.
Hell is a scary place Mr Spitzer - don't go there.
Forcing the "choice" onto everyone, eh? How magnanimous!
Truly frightening. God help us.
Hypocritic Oath?
You all need to relax and embrace secularism. Since the rise of secularism and its corresponding subjugation of the darker impulses of God and Christ, humanity has become less violent, nicer, and generally better.
http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/pinker07/pinker07_index.html
UAB
Okay UAB. Tell that to the billions killed by abortion, the people in the middle east, the people in Rwanda, the people in Darfur, and the millions starving around the world. Embrace the concept of everyone for themselves? I don't think so.
In Jesus through Mary.
"Since the rise of secularism and its corresponding subjugation of the darker impulses of God and Christ, humanity has become less violent, nicer, and generally better."
UAB, even a troll should have some contact with reality. After the body counts of Hitler, Stalin and Mao in the last century, your sentence above reads like graffiti scrawled on the wall in a mad house.
UAB...that has to be one of the most ahistorcial statements I have ever heard.
I find it amusing that the NY governor's mansion is pretty much right next to the Cathedral in Albany. Maybe Gov. Spitzer needs to spend some time up there.
Okay Amy, I'll tell them that. Just because they are suffering from being the exception of a long standing trend doesn't debunk the trend. Genocide is a common historical event. If you read your bible and possessed basic bibilical literacy, you'd know that.
Donnie McClarey, you've just committed the reverse logical error that led to the myth of the nobel savage. You have to realize even as per capita, rates of violence fall, there are more people around, so absoulte numbers of violence may increase.
The reality is far higher percentages of people were murdered, killed in combat, raped, tortured, among other nasty things back in the Middle Ages than are today.
Actually FRBP, that statement is the currently held view point by most scholars. It is an outgrowth of the debunking of the myth of the Nobal Savage. It is proven that murder rates have declined, the percentage of men killed as a result of combat has fallen dramatically, ethnic rioting has decline, dueling discredited and largely forgotten. Hell, even animal cruelty is no longer tolerated.
FRBP, you really suffer from stale historiography :)
And as any historian can tell you, the body count would have higher had your ancestors had access to today's modern technology and organizations.
"Donnie McClarey, you've just committed the reverse logical error that led to the myth of the nobel savage. You have to realize even as per capita, rates of violence fall, there are more people around, so absoulte numbers of violence may increase."
Rubbish on stilts troll. Your argument is as faulty as your spelling. The atheist regimes of the past century ushered in industrial murder on an unprecedented scale in the regions they controlled. Your contention that as belief in religion wanes humanity becomes less violent and nicer was put to experimental tests by these regimes and the result was horrific. If you are going to play the troll on a Catholic website, refrain from arguments that simply embarrass you and betray a complete lack of knowledge of basic history. Read to gain knowledge, sharpen the logic of your arguments and peform properly the function of a website troll: to counter the positions of the site through careful and witty arguments.
Ok, so what do we do? Beside pray and fast?
UAB, when do you date the rise of secularism? And what scholars do you quote? History is a passion of mine and I'm fairly well read...so who are these scholars? I would like to look their work up, you know, in the interest of not being stale.
Now, of course, what with the New York primary coming up on Super Tuesday, that stalwart pro-life warrior John McCain has been up and down the state fighting tooth and nail against this, right??
Re: forcing "choice". Yesterday my family began to notice that we have bus-billboards about the gay "right to marriage" and the "need" for tolerance education in our schools in Rhode Island. How is it that these messages are acceptable, but a pro-life message, no matter how peaceful, is considered "discriminatory" and disallowed often. During 40 Days For Life we were not permitted to hang any pro-life banner from poles, etc, (We were not told that we couldn't specifically, but we couldn't do it without a permit. We kept getting passed to one level after another and then ignored each time a contact learned that our message was pro-life.) Many things are topsy-turvy in every level of government...
And what do we hear about at Mass this past weekend? Global warming. That's right. Not about this heinous legislation, but about how we should petition lawmakers to funnel money into researching global warming.