How embarrassing

Comment(s) (15) | TrackBacks (0)

Thinking Catholic Gary Wills has an embarrassing op ed in the L.A. Times that makes me blush for him.  Ramesh Ponnuru has done the commentary for me.

He has a long, confused op-ed on abortion in the L. A. Times. His focus on evangelicals is a little odd—if all you had to go on was this op-ed, you might think they were the only people who oppose abortion.

    If we are to decide the matter of abortion by natural law, that means we must turn to reason and science, the realm of Enlightened religion. But that is just what evangelicals want to avoid. Who are the relevant experts here? They are philosophers, neurobiologists, embryologists. Evangelicals want to exclude them because most give answers they do not want to hear.


What is Wills talking about? Evangelical (and other) pro-lifers are perfectly willing to turn to embryologists, regardless of those embryologists' position on abortion policy, for confirmation of the thesis that human embryos are living organisms of the human species. There are pro-life philosophers, too, and plenty of pro-lifers cite them.

If Wills had consulted one of them, he might have avoided some of the wrong turns he takes when he tries to commit philosophy. "Harvesting carrots, on a consistent pro-life hypothesis, would constitute something of a massacre." Okay, that's just embarrassing, so let's move on.

    It is certainly true that the fetus is human life. But so is the semen before it fertilizes; so is the ovum before it is fertilized. They are both human products, and both are living things. But not even evangelicals say that the destruction of one or the other would be murder. . . .

    The universal mandate to preserve "human life" makes no sense. My hair is human life — it is not canine hair, and it is living. It grows. When it grows too long, I have it cut. Is that aborting human life? The same with my growing human fingernails. An evangelical might respond that my hair does not have the potential to become a person. True. But semen has the potential to become a person, and we do not preserve every bit of semen that is ejaculated but never fertilizes an egg.

Wills's skin cells and sperm cells are human, and alive, but they're part of an organism (him). They're not living human organisms, as a human fetus is. As for the notion that semen has the potential to become a person: Wills needs a refresher course in biology. Perhaps he should ask an evangelical for a referral to an embryologist?

Catholics were discussing natural law theory long before the so-called enlightenment that was more apt to chop off heads than to make decisions based on reason and science.  Wills would be on steadier ground he if mentioned evangelicals that had abandoned natural law theory in the first place, though it is certainly making a comeback in those circles.

If it was Lent I would recommend reading Wills' whole column.

0 TrackBacks

Listed below are links to blogs that reference this entry: How embarrassing.

TrackBack URL for this entry: http://www.splendoroftruth.com/cgi-bin/mt-tb.cgi/5429

15 Comments

Holy... ! Is Wills serious? Someone call up Fr. Erik over at Orthometer and tell him he's got a prime candidate for the Batsh*t Crazy Award here.

And Ponnuru doesn't even bother to mention another Wills howler: "The fetus has a face long before it has a brain." Riiiight, Mr. Wills.

Poor Mr. Wills. He seems to have been having one of those Miss-Teen-South-Carolina moments, made worse by the fact that he's grown up. I just hope he's not too invested in being a "thinking Catholic" to realize that he (like most of us, to be fair to Mr. Wills) is still capable of being an idiot.

Peace,
--Peter

I thought that nail and hair cells were dead. That's why it doesn't hurt to cut them. They don't "grow" like living things, it's just that more dead cells accumulate.

Am I wrong? If I am, could someone please explain to me what I'm misremembering from middle-school science class?

Chris,
I believe you are correct. As far as hair goes, it grows from the follicles. So to harm anything living, the follicles would have to be damaged.
Remind me not to use Mr Wills barber.

I believe this is the same Gary Wills referred to by a prominent Filipino politician in his radio program.

I'm getting the impression that people like Wills are doing better in forming the consciences of some of our intellectuals than the Pope does because their message is in a language and form our "betters" can understand and accept without question.

Critical thinking is not a strong point in Filipino intellectual culture. While US Catholics can easily dismiss Wills and his ideas, our intellectuals won't and don't. The problem is then compounded when the average Filipino turns off the radio with the impression that this Wills guy is a huge expert in the shadowy world behind the walls of the Vatican and must be telling the truth about the machinations of the Pope and his Curia.

US Catholics should realize that a good part of Universal Church is watching them and imitating them, whether for good or bad.

Good gravy, I can almost hear Wills' brain screeching to a halt.

Read Will's Book on St Augustine for a great example of reductionism. Good to know he's consistent.

I think some of these comments are a bit disingenuous, or at best naive. Anyone care to bet what would happen if tomorrow the heavens opened and the voice of God was heard proclaiming that abortion was just fine? Answer: much of the steam would go out of the anti-abortion movement. So, stop denying that religious belief makes up a large portion of the pro-life cause.

As for Will's article, I haven't read it yet, but I heard him on NPR, and all I can say is that he's naive if he believes his arguments are really going to persuade anyone to change their opinions!

Wills's arguments are fallacious at best, and duplicitous at worst. As Chris rightly points out, the fingernails and hair that are cut are truly dead tissue. Nor does the solitary sperm or ovum have the potential to become a human life. As Raymond Dennehy wrote in "Anti-Abortionist at Large," even the most strident defenders of abortion will rarely fail to admit that a fetus is a human life. Wills should stick to his avocation as a historian - or perhaps take a freshman biology course before commenting on human reproduction.

Hmm. Gary Wills. Some years ago, I ran across a statement of his regarding the Church's stand on a moral issue - or perhaps it was about a doctrine. It doesn't matter which it was, really. What matters is his statement and his lack of any argument.

He described the Church's position as "silly," and went on to another topic, as if he had simply brushed a troublesome insect from his brow.

Since then, I have not read more than half a sentence produced by this person, and as such, I confess I haven't bothered to read on tenth of this column. He deserves as much respect as he gives to the Church - and the unborn.

Let us all try to ignore this fellow.

I think some of these comments are a bit disingenuous, or at best naive.

Example?

Anyone care to bet what would happen if tomorrow the heavens opened and the voice of God was heard proclaiming that abortion was just fine? Answer: much of the steam would go out of the anti-abortion movement. So, stop denying that religious belief makes up a large portion of the pro-life cause.

Not sure what is meant by this hypothetical. I would need elaboration. Wills is denying? We are denying? I don't understand.

As for Will's article, I haven't read it yet, but I heard him on NPR, and all I can say is that he's naive if he believes his arguments are really going to persuade anyone to change their opinions!

If for a moment we grant that dubious propositition that the wrongness of abortion is a matter of mere opinion like a favorite flavor of ice cream, we still need a sound reason for changing our minds and Wills (or any other defender of the indefensible) has simply not provided any.


I forget who said it, but tis true that it takes an intellectual to get something completely and radically wrong!

I forget who said it, but tis true that it takes an intellectual to get something completely and radically wrong!

Dunno who that was, but Orwell I believe said "there are some ideas so foolish that only intellectuals could believe them."

Where does Wills gets his scientific facts from, NARAL?

Both an ovum and sperm are unicells. Although they are alive, they do not have the genetic code of homo sapiens, therefore, neither one is human life. Hair is not alive. Carrots are not human.

Is it just me, or is Wills getting stupider with each passing day?

Judith M.,

Excellent points all. Especially the last one.

Yes the Greek Captcha is a joke

Leave a comment

The Curt Jester

A former atheist who after spending forty years in the wilderness finds himself with both astonishment and joy a member of the Catholic Church. This blog presents my hopefully humorous and sometimes serious take on things religious, political, and whatever else crosses my mind.

My conversion story

Email Me:

Blessed Miguel Pro, S.J.

Known as "God's Jester" was a martyr for the faith and a man of wisdom, fun, tricks, poetry, song, and dance. Thus seemed an appropriate Patron Saint of this blog.

Shameless Promotion

The Curt Jester: Disturbingly Funny --Mark Shea
EX-cellent blog --Jimmy Akin
One wag has even posted a list of the Top Ten signs that someone is in the grip of "motu-mania," -- John Allen Jr.
Brilliance abounds --Victor Lams
The Curt Jester is a blog of wise-ass musings on the media, politics, and things "Papist." The Revealer
Not all the Jester’s lines hit their target. --Commonweal
2009 Award Nominee Funniest Blog

Info

Blogging since:
7/24/02

This site established:
9 Feb 2003

My Previous blog
Atheist to a Theist

Catholic since:
Easter 4/4/99

Human since:
Conception 1958

Sponsors

My other blogs

Real Sponsors

Archives

Supernatural Weather

Site Meter

Powered by Movable Type 4.23-en

Navigation

Find recent content on the main index or look in the archives to find all content.

Subscribe

Atom
RSS

Catholic Sites

Catholic Podcasts




SQPN is a source for great Catholic podcasts.

Ministerial Bloghood

Bloghood of the Faithful

A Catholic Life
A Catholic Mom Climbing the Pillars
A Catholic Mom in Hawaii
Acts of the Apostasy
Ad Altare Dei
AdoroTeDevote
Alive and Young
A (little) Light from the East
Against the Grain
Aggie Catholics
And Sometimes Tea
Aliens in this world
American Chesterton Society
American Papist
Among Women
Ask Sister Mary Martha
Assenting Catholic
auntie joanna writes
A Wing And A Prayer
Bay Area Catholic
bettnett.com
Bethune Catholic
Big C Catholics
Blackadder's Lair
Blog by-the-Sea
Cacciaguida
Catholic Analysis
Catholic and Enjoying It!
Catholic Cartoon Blog
Catholic in Film School
Catholic in Japan Catholic Fire
Catholic Mom of 10
Catholic New Media Roundup
Catholic Pillow Fight
Catholic with Attitude
Claw of the Conciliator
Chad Is Not Enough
Chris Cuddy
Church of the Masses
Christus Vincit
Confessions of a Hot Carmel Sundae
Concordia cum Veritate
Conversion Diary
Cor ad cor loquitur
Cosmos-Liturgy-Sex
Creative Minority Report
CUF Blog
CVSTOS FIDEI
Dad29
dark speech upon the harp
Darwin Catholic
Defenders of the Catholic Faith
Defensor Veritatis
Dei Gratia
Deo Omnis Gloria
Disputations
Divine Life
Dominican Idaho
Dyspectic Mutterings
Eagle and Elephant
Ecce Homo
Erik's Rants and Recipes
Eve Tushnet
feminine-genius
Fiat
FideCogitActio
Fighting Irish Thomas
FIRST THINGS: On the Square
Five Feet of Fury
Flos Carmeli
Flying Stars
For The Greater Glory
Galactic Catholic Universe
Gen X Revert
Get Religion
GKC's Favourite
God's Wonderful Love
Godsbody
Happy Catholic
HMS Blog
If Flannery Had A Blog
Holy Cards For Your Inspiration
In Defense Of The Children of Light
In Dwelling
InForum Blog
In Light of the Law
Ignatius Insight Scoop
In Nomine Domini
Jeff Cavins
Jimmy Akin
John C. Wright
Jumping Without A Chute
June Cleaver after a Six Pack
Kansas Catholic
La Salette Journey
L.A. Catholic
Laudem Gloriae
Lamb of God
Laus Crucis
Lex Communis
Life is a Prayer
Live + Jesus!
Lofted Nest
Looking Closer Journal
Laodicea
Loved Undefiled
Man with Black Hat
Maria Lectrix
Mary Meets Dolly
mere comments
M. J. Joachim on Catholic Catechism & More
Mommentary
MONIALES OP
Mount Carmel Bloggers
Mulier Fortis
Musings of a Pertinacious Papist
My Domestic Church
Nunblog
Oblique House
Off the Record
Oklahomily
Open wide the doors to Christ!
Patrick Madrid
Pro Ecclesia * Pro Familia * Pro Civitate
Ramblings of a Catholic Soccer Mom
Real Clear Religion
Recta Ratio
Rerum Novarum
Rise of the TOB
Ruri et Orbi
Roman Catholic Blog
RORATE CÆLI
Sacramentum Vitae
Seize the Dei
Shades of Gray (Umbrae Canarum)
Shrine of the Holy Whapping
Some Have Hats
Sonitus Sanctus
Southern Appeal
Southfarthing Soapbox
Sterquilinium
Stony Creek Digest
Stupidus
Summa Contra Mundum
Summa Mamas
Testosterhome
Ten Reasons
The Anchoress
The Ark and The Dove
The Art of Apologetics
The B-Movie Catechism
The Blog from the Core
The Blue Boar
The Charcoal Fire
The Commonplace Book of Zadok the Roman
The Crescat/a>
The Daily Eudemon
The Dawn Patrol
The Digital Hairshirt
The Four Pillars
The Fifth Column
The Inn at the End of the World
The Ironic Catholic
The Lady in the Pew
The Lair of the Catholic Cavemen
The Lion and the Cardinal
The New Liturgical Movement
The Paragraph Farmer
The Ramblings, Rants, and Raves of John Book
The Roamin' Roman
The Sacred Page
The Sci Fi Catholic
The Scratching Post
Super(Catholic)Man
The Way of the Fathers
The Weight of Glory
The Wired Catholic
Thoughts and ruminations of a man on a quest
Thoughts of a Regular Guy
You say Tomato, I say Catholic
Thoughts of Apolonio Latar III
To Dust You Shall Return
Tremendous Trifles
Trousered Ape
True Confessions of a Prodigal Daughter
V for Victory!
Vatican Watcher
Veritas
Veritas nunquam perit
Via Media (Amy Welborn)
Vivificat
Video meliora, proboque; Deteriora sequor
Why Fret?
Wild Tangents
Zippy Catholic