Actually banning cloning means to repeal a ban on cloning

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A reader sent me an update on the Cures Without Cloning Campaign in Missouri.  This campaign is intended to add an amendment to the Missouri constitution to undo the cloning amendments from last years change to the constitution.  As many will remember the ballot from last year was quite disingenuous in it wording by making it appear to ban cloning while in fact supporting so-called therapeutic cloning.  This has been a common tactic of embryonic stem-cell supporters to lie for our own good.<>br With more of the same tactics the Secretary of the State has certified a ballot title that is truly a outrageously biased version of the ballot initiative.

Shall the Missouri Constitution be amended to repeal the current ban on human cloning or attempted cloning and to limit
Missouri patients� access to stem cell research, therapies and cures approved by voters in November 2006 by:
 
� redefining the ban on human cloning or attempted cloning to criminalize and impose civil penalties for
some currently allowed research, therapies and cures;  and 
 
� prohibiting hospitals or other institutions from using public funds to conduct such research?
 
This proposal could have a significant negative fiscal impact  on state and local governmental entities due to its prohibition of
certain research activities. However, the total costs to state and local governmental entities are unknown. 

I am surprised that they didn't add that it would also poke the eyes out of kittens.

The attempt to actually create a cloning ban is stated as a repeal to the current ban on cloning.  What current therapies and cures are there from ESCR in the first place?  I guess zero is a hard number to elucidate on.  I guess we shouldn't be surprised by the twisting and outright lies of the ESCR supporters, but how far they will go is amazing.

Here is the ballot title as it was submitted before it went through the doublethink processor.

It shall be unlawful to clone or attempt to clone a human being as that term is defined in subsection 2 of this section. Researchers may conduct stem cell research to discover cures for disease and develop stem cell therapies and cures, provided that the research complies with the limitations of this section and the limitations of Section 38(d). The prohibition of this section shall be in addition to the prohibitions of Section 38(d).
 
2. For all purposes within this article, �Clone or attempt to clone a human being� means create or attempt to create a human embryo at any stage, which shall include the one-cell stage onward, by any means other than fertilization of a human egg by a human sperm.
 
3. No taxpayer dollars shall be expended:
    1. to clone or attempt to clone a human being; or
    2. to research or experiment using a human embryo, or any part of a human embryo, derived from cloning or attempting to clone a human being.

They are currently mounting a legal challenge or the rewording.

If you are from Missouri you can contact Missourians Against Human Cloning to help out.

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"What current therapies and cures are there from ESCR in the first place? I guess zero is a hard number to elucidate on?"

Man, I am the white Edgar Cayce, I predicted this occurring yesterday. With dead-on accuracy. http://www.splendoroftruth.com/cgi-bin/mtype-ceaster.cgi?entry_id=8481

In the last 48 hours, ESCR has provable cured as many amputees as Lourdes.

Hoodlum, with all due respect, you're an idiot.

There are no bans (yet). Pharmaceutical companies, philanthropic funds, etc, are free to fund ESCR. There are restrictions on federal funding, but it takes a lot of dishonesty or stupidity to pretend that's the same thing. Furthermore, the above only applies in the United States. That doesn't really hold true around the world. So considering this, where are the results?

I am from Missouri and this is a nightmare happening all over again. We came so close to overcoming all the lies and the big money that went into pushing the so-called "anti-cloning" pro-cloning law last year. I bet that we will not be able to get the wording changed and people will be confused all over again. Then when you have Jack Danforth who has been so respected in Missouri for so long pushing the lies with his sober honest face it is very hard to convince people that he is in fact lying. Please pray for us.

I wondered what it would take to get hoodlum to surface again. I guess it is easy to be for something that could not happen to you, huh? Noone harvested your stem cells when you were an embryo (and you were at one time)...but, hey, tough noogies on those poor embryos trying to make it down the pike. Suckers! And your Lourdes/ESCR comparison...unbelievably poor use of logic...it is almost mind-numbing.

R - you did it again!

How can you say "with all due respect" and then be so utterly disrespectful?!

Unfortunatetly, I know personally some individuals who have travelled to many shrines, including Lourdes, in the hopes that their eyes, limbs or what-have-you would grow back or "be restored to wholeness". What I pray they learn is that they are perfect the way they are. God has allowed whatever has come their way - hard as it is to fathom. The real miracles happen when the disabled or disfigured accept themselves and are accepted by the rest of us, as perfect - just the way they are - just they way God presents them to us. In a kind of a Fra Lippo way, y'know?

Heidi, why do you think Hoodlum's comment deserved respect? When I asked "Where are the results?" I wasn't talking about Lourdes. Please read more carefully next time before you respond to comments.

R-

I was not commenting on whether or not Hoodlum's comment deserved respect. I was commenting on your ad hominem attack on Hoodlum. You prefaced an insult with "with all due respect". Why do you do that? You give NO respect when you call anyone an idiot.

Please write more carefully when you respond to comments...

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