Pro-life director of an abortion clinic

Newspeak ... no?

Four legs good, two legs bad.

Four legs good, two legs better.

the lives gained by abortion ??????

How twisted do you have to be for this to make sense to you?

A very vivid illustration of how sin makes you utterly stupid.

To the degree that Nancy Pelosi is Catholic, Karen Kubby is pro-life? Sometimes language (when it is de-communication?) is a dangerous thing.

At least the Nazis admitted that they hated the Jews. This is like a Nazi shoving Jews into the gas chambers while gushing about religious tolerance and inclusiveness.

I favor strict gun control so I NEED to maintain an arsenal to blow away those who are opposed to gun control.

I could not say it any better then the above comments. Excellent!!

Of COURSE she values life! If it weren't for life, especially in its infancy, she wouldn't have a job! It's kind of like how slavetraders valued Africans or how a leech values mammals.

The same thing with the "it's a respectful and moral option" to have an abortion. If I learned nothing else from mobsters, it's that you have to deliberate very carefully about making a hit and give your enemy his due respect.

Life Director at an abortion clinic?
isn't that an oxymoron?

Life Director. Sure. She decides who dies, and who...doesn't live. What they need is a Lie Detector.
As for the Nazi's, they told those destined for death that they were on their way to the shower.

A decision about abortion is decidedly pro-life.

As long as the decision is "I will not now or ever have or assist someone in having one."

I'm reminded of the people Dawn Eden runs into who claim to be sex-positive, on the grounds that they go through so much of it. Oh, never mind any concern for the inherent worth of whatever you say you're in favor of....

Who ever heard of killing an innocent as a moral option....

I wonder how she would feel if someone exercised that moral option on her.

I live in Iowa City and used to drive by Emma Goldman every morning on the way to work. On good weather days, I'd see Karen Kubby riding her bike there. The bike had a basket on the back and with her stringy black hair she looked like the Wicked Witch of the West (back in b&w Kansas).

That music would run through my head every time. Sadly, she's a community fixture - as is murdering the unborn.

I work out of Iowa City and have spoken with this woman personally years ago. Not only is she a huge abortion fan she is also an exteme Socialist. She used to be a councilwoman in Iowa City. She is a total KOOK. One time for campaigning to run for council this nut dressed up like an Native American Squaw and bounced around like a total fool playing a bongo drum during the Unviersity of Iowas homcoming parade. He slogan was drum up support for Karin Kubby. I beleive she is a memeber of the local citizens for a socialism organization. She is a very very very weird lady.

Maybe this is a back-handed compliment to the pro-life movement. I mean at least it shows that even abortionists recognize at some level that to declare themselves pro-life (even if falsely) is more attractive than revealing what they really are.

This is some good evidence of how well the pro-life movement is doing at winning the hearts and minds of America. It seems that everyone - even directors of abortion clinics (!) - wants to be identified as "pro-life".

The trick for Ms. Kubby is to try to be pro-life and pro-choice simultaneously. Ok, it's a tough fit, but we'll make it work. I suppose it's a little like saying that you're both pro-family and pro-homosexual marriage. Or that you're pro-war and anti-war at the same time (see, for example, most Democrats). In politics, it seems that everyone wants to have their cake and eat it too. It'd be nice to have a little intellectual honesty.

At least her scheme seems to be backfiring. The daily here in Iowa City in which her piece ran has been swamped with letters, two thirds of their editorial page yesterday and perhaps the same today. Few if any seem to be buying her selective use of language.

JonathanR - St. Wenceslaus by chance?

The last part of my comment should have been addressed to Caine or paed.

mea culpa

The "Emma Goldman Clinic" for abortions, I mean, infanticide! Wow, is there one also named for Madame Mao? Or Eva Braun?

A related detour: I admit to having had a bit of a weakness for the television series, "House". I rarely indulge it, but this week I succumbed for the last time. The main story involved a Christian (Catholic?) rape victim who stated strongly that she wanted to have her baby. When Dr House finally gets around to talking to her as a human being, he bullies her out of her faith and her desire to give birth to a "rape baby". Par for the course for this character, EXCEPT that his action was spun as the ONE time he had actually cared enough to be GOOD to someone!
My teen-aged daughter burst into tears. "It was like watching the devil and God" she cried, "but the devil won!"
Subsequently, we're working on our letters of complaint (even fiction writers/producers should be responsible for their theme and how it might influence the young). And of course, we're boycotting the show. As Kate explained to her brother "If we don't give up something we like, our protest isn't worth anything. And in this case, we're not even giving up a good thing!"
If nothing else, this experience was a good family lead-in to Lent and perhaps to the notion of giving s'thing as a family so that the awful truth of "pro-choice" will come to light.

Has there in recent television history been a situation like what Joanne describes on "House" where the pro-life foil in the plot, even portrayed as a bad guy, actually wins the debate? When they did it on "Boston Legal" the moral was "even pro-lifers will get an abortion when the chips are down," and on "Battlestar:Galactica" it was "With 35,000 humans left in the universe we can't afford to keep abortion illegal, but you can have one anyway," although that one may be a little pyrrhic.