Dissident roundtable
One of my readers tipped me off to a interview on a St. Louis NPR affiliate that included Fr. Marek Bozed (excommunicated by Archbishop Burke), Frank Krebs (ex-priest with the Francis Ecumenical Catholic Community), and Patricia Fresen (ex-nun who who calls herself a Roman Catholic Bishop.)
The interview is available in MP3 or Windows Media. Though if you have ever listened to or read dissident Catholics you will hear nothing new here. The same regurgitation about how since Jesus ate with sinners that somehow all sin is now acceptable. They always miss the fact that Jesus came to us to invite us to a life of holiness and to repent of our sins so that we can live eternally with him. Jesus also ate with the Pharisees so how come progressives see things pharisitical as a bad thing? By their logic since he ate with them their actions are automatically elevated to being alright. Why do they try to paint anybody who wants the Mass to conform to liturgical documents as a Pharisee? Now the desire for liturgical norms is not in reality pharisitical. In fact the Pharisees were guilty of creating their own rules that trumped natural law and the commandments, something progressives should be familiar with in their own logic.
I also found is sadly funny how Patricia Fresen defended her "ordination." It seems funny to appeal to apostolic succession when that 2000 years of apostolic succession were all men. She talks about how her ordination was valid though not in conformance to canon law. When you make it up as you go why can't you just ordain yourself if you feel called? Why be restricted by apostolic tradition in this matter when you can ignore it when it suits you.
One really silly part was when Frank Krebs appealed to St Teresa of Avila wanting to be a priest and said that since she is a Doctor of the Church this is a high teaching. This is really laughable since who he is actually referring to is what St Terese wrote in the Story of a Soul.
"If only I were a priest! How lovingly I would bear You in my hands, my Jesus, when my voice had brought You down from Heaven. How lovingly I would give. You to souls!" "Yet while wanting to be a priest, I admire St. Francis of Assisi and envy his humility, longing to imitate him in refusing this sublime dignity."
Yes the very model of demanding female ordination and willing to be excommunicated to do so - NOT. The disingenuous of progressives never ceases to amaze me. That they can take that quote and turn in into something that not only St. Terese never intended, but that no one until fairly recently ever twisted into a desire for female ordination directly opposing Church's authority.
Though I guess I shouldn't really care what a gang of dissidents talking about the Church matters anyway. Heterodoxy is just so boring with the same lame buzz words repeated until they get you into a stupor.
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Amen to that!
has anyone else seen the basilica in Lisieux? there is a big mural of Therese holding the host over the chalice like a priest. It bothered me when I saw it but perhaps it was not an attempt to twist her words. any other reactions?
This mural of St. Therese may be based on a photograph of her preparing the sacred vessels for Mass - a duty that fell to her from time to time. I would therefore view the mural more in light of this photograph rather than her wanting to be a priest. She would never had been canonized if she harbored heterodox views on the priesthood.
"Jesus also ate with the Pharisees so how come progressives see things parasitical as a bad thing?"
I'd say that eating with parasites would be quite unhealthy!
Bec
Proof that these people have no idea what they're talking about came with the caller who wanted to find out how he could be excommunicated, I was shocked that Father Bozek took it all in stride and actually encouraged him to commit mortal sin! Oh sure he fluffed it up at the end telling him he didn't wish him to be excommunicated, but the fact that he answered positively at all is horrifying.
The documentary about St. Therese that was made when her relics visited the USA had a nun who hinted at what St. Therese said about "wanting" to be a priest. I wanted to reach right through the TV screen and slap her! St. Therese is my patron, and I get very hot when people twist her words to fit their agendas. Bravo, Jeff!
Dylan - You are right.
St. Therese held the Office of (assistant) Sacristan for her Community at one time. The Sacristan's job in the Monastery would be to keep and prepare all the sacred vessels/linens/vestments etc. for the Monastery Chapel including, at that time, make their own hosts. St. Therese's sister Celine brought a camera with her when she entered the Carmel and took all those photographs of St. Therese and the Community, including the photos of St. Therese and her 3 blood-sisters (Marie, Pauline and Celine, as well as their first cousin) preparing for Mass out of doors in the Monastery enclosure, instead of in the Sacristy room. The pictures show St. Therese standing next to a small table preparing the Chalice with a purificator on top and she is placing an (unconsecrated) Host onto the paten on top of the Chalice. Cloistered Communities of female religious have to have a Sacristan to care for these things and the Prioress/Abbess appoints a nun to hold this Office.
How sad that dissenters will use and manipulate who and what they want to lend credibility to their outrageous claims ...
Frank Krebs may be very thankful he's in Missouri where I can't get at him: nobody messes with Ste. Therese when I'm around. This statement shows her to be just about as much in defense of the ordination of women as I am when I say that if I were a bishop, So-and-so would be out on his kiester. Hypotheticals - hello?
I think you meant to say St Therese of Liseux (France) instead of St Teresa of Avila (Spain).
Naomi is right, Krebs said "St. Theresa of Avila" when he was actually speaking about the words of St. Therese of Lisieux (though twisted and taken out of context). It goes to show you that he is just repeating the same talking points which are often propogated by the Womynchurch and CTA crowd. He gives himself away - not a fan or even a student either of St. Theresa or of St. Therese. He has his agenda and is trying to bolster it with such specious reasoning and quoting out of context.