Yawning Gulf

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OTTAWA (CNS) -- While a keynote speaker at a conference on women's ordination warned delegates that the aging progressive Catholic movement desperately needed an infusion of youth, some participants said the women priest movement, in particular, did not resonate with young adults.
The 460 registered delegates attending the Women's Ordination Worldwide conference in Ottawa July 22-24 came from some 20 countries on five continents, but white women in their 50s and 60s dominated the gathering.

Fewer than a dozen conference delegates were under 30, prompting one of them to ask theologian Rosemary Radford Ruether what efforts were being made to recruit younger women.

Ruether, professor emeritus at the Pacific School of Religion at the Graduate Theological Union in Berkeley, Calif., and an author of more than two dozen books, said the progressive Catholic movement was mainly "gray-headed" and over 50.

She said that female doctoral students were leaving the church because they wanted to be ordained and have a job.

Many of the conference speakers acknowledged that their children were not remaining with the Catholic Church once they learned of its stance on birth control, for example.

"Young people don't have the same way of getting inculcated into the Catholic identity," Ruether said. "They simply won't tolerate this."

What a surprise that when you see at least on of your parents dissent from Church teaching on women's ordination that they could also balk at other Church teachings. It is difficult enough in this culture to teach the truth of sexuality and it is made more difficult by dissenters who pick in choose what they want to believe.

While the July 25 invalid ordination of four women as priests drew a barrage of mainstream media coverage, younger Catholic women interviewed by Canadian Catholic News did not seem to share the same interest in ordination or see it as an equality issue.

Patricia Murphy, who teaches ethics at St. Augustine Seminary at the University of Toronto, said most women born after the Second Vatican Council ended in 1965 have a different experience from women in their 50s and 60s who were "typically formed by what has been called a 'Catholic subculture.'"

"Many of the younger Catholics I know, both women and men, think they were never sufficiently educated in their own tradition," she said. "For them it is religious pluralism, not any distinctive 'Catholic subculture' that is a point of departure.

"They often come to theology to 'fill in the gaps,' to develop a mature -- and truly thoughtful -- understanding of their faith," stemming from a desire to "be more solidly grounded," she said.

Dorothy Cummings, who is pursuing a doctorate in theology at Boston College, said she believed most Catholics were uncomfortable with the invalid ordinations of women priests.

"The women who have been most loudly in favor of women's ordination have not been ones respected for their orthodoxy," she said.

There is a "yawning gulf" between baby boomers and those born after Vatican II, she said. "Younger women are interested in collegiality. They want to work with priests and bishops, not complain about them. [Source]

Well I think "yawning gulf' is a good term. Younger women are looking at this issue and yawning.

I have read the observation for years that groups like Call To Action, VOTF, and others are graying out with little infusion of young people. You know these groups aren't going to be called for a world youth day like conference anytime soon. Or if they do they can probably book a phone booth for the conference hall. Though I do think they have some opportunities for raising cash. For example they could do a partnership with Clairol Hair Coloring and Grecian Formula - Just For Men.

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It comes as no surprise.

When a group specifically rejects authority, they specifically reject their OWN 'authority.'

Thus, assuming that our yout' have some common sense, WHY would they "join" the group?

When I was in the seminary a few years ago, a rumor spread that a priestess who was the pastor of a local Episcopal church was going to be taking an Old Testament course with us. Every seminarian's reaction--to a man--was: "Is she hot?"

Alas, she was not.

The youth seem to me to be "doing the right thing" in that they don't accept Church teachings and are leaving for whatever creed du jour "floats their boats." Though I believe the apostates are making grave errors, their course is more (humanly) honorable than the elders' attempts at schism. I feel sorry for the old ones who can't find their way in or out.

"Young people don't have the same way of getting inculcated into the Catholic identity," Ruether said. "They simply won't tolerate this."

What language is this? As far as I can make out the first sentence has no meaning whatever. Geez, if I had a Ph.D. I'd write better than that. (I write better than that without one.) And the fact that participants' children leave the Church "once they learned of its stance on birth control," is a glaring giveaway of exactly how hard the parents tried to teach them the Faith: my children knew birth control was wrong before they knew exactly what it was. Now that they know, they know exactly why it's wrong.

Yawn is right. Not just yawning gap, but yawns that cannot be repressed except by the boobs in the mainstream media who think that this is news. Not as much fun as the burmese python- alligator fight in the Everglades.

We have in our parish a "pastoral associate" a certain Sister who thinks that the sun rises and sets upon His Excellency, Bishop Gumbleton. Sister, being into haute polyester, is viewed by our parish as someone to be tolerated because she's there, rather like the parking lot. And we smile charitably as she attempts her wan welcoming prior to the masses.

When the women's ordination issue first hit the street, heralded by the likes of Sr. Donna Quinn, it was there for shock value. That was over thirty years ago. Even Johnny Carson has come and gone as well, thank God, as has Disco. Sr. Donna, bless her matched poyester outfit, is now on the verge of tottering off of a boat somewhere along with Her Moribundness, Professor and General Bore, Rosemary Radford Reuther.

One big wake from a passing speed boat and the whole issue, well, just sinks to the muck down at the bottom. RIP.

I rather enjoyed the line about young people leaving once they found out about the Church's teaching on contraception. This is a big secret? Well, apparently so, if you've been raised among liberal Catholics hanging out at the parish of St. Helen Reddy and telling you "God is luv! We don't need no catechism! We don't need no thought control!"

The shock of finding out that the real Church actually has *gasp* rules must be very great.

Another contibuting factor in all of this is those "catholic" couples who contracept are not *having* the children. Those families who don't are many times richly blessed with children who they raise, as they promised in the Catholic faith. I commented about this in my blog in a post entitled Population Politics.

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